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Old 03-04-2008, 12:14 PM   #26
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Re: What is 'Peace', anyways?

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When the entire post comes up wrapped in the [quote] tags simply delete the pieces that you don't want.

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"A pacifist is not really a pacifist if he is unable to make a choice between violence and non-violence. A true pacifist is able to kill or maim in the blink of an eye, but at the moment of impending destruction of the enemy he chooses non-violence."
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Old 03-04-2008, 04:04 PM   #27
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Peace?

I am sitting in my backyard next to my South American grill (slow grill over REAL wood coals) with good friends/family. Slowly grilling a nice PEACE of dry-aged sirloin that was seasoned with truffle salts for six hours. It is a beautiful, sunny day in the low 80's. We are sipping a nice 2001 California Carbernet sauvignon out of hand-blown Reidel glasses, (the wine decanted for several hours of course!). We are discussing the merits of having another bottle of cab (that is also decanting) with the first course, or starting in on that 1982 Chateau Latour- decanted for at least five hours (and saving the other cab for the cheese desert).

Peace-> that settled feeling in your hara, right next to that wonderful meal that is digesting, while watching a nice sunset

Marc Abrams

That all sounds very nice Marc, but would you still feel the same peace if you were digesting grilled hamburger, drinking water from mason jars while getting wet in the rain?
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Old 03-04-2008, 05:02 PM   #28
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Peace is when living in Port Morseby,as I do,outside violence is
not part of my life!
Peace is when I pracitice Aikido!
Peace is when on the way to the school small children smile at me.
Peace is when I go to the bed and pray that one day Port Morseby,my new home will recover and became normal.
Peace is when I think of my ex-home in Califorina and think of loved there.
Regards and Peace,from Port Morseby,and I hope you will send some prayers our way,if you can!

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Old 03-04-2008, 07:13 PM   #29
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Ricky:

Have grilled great burgers in the rain, drinking water from the hose tap and been in peace as well. I typically smoke a thanksgiving turkey on my grill. I've been outside in freezing rain & snow, huddled underneath a tarp for six hours (of course a good book and nice bottle of wine helped ) It's a state of mind that is only made better by good friends, good family, healthy life, good food, and better drinks!

Marc Abrams

ps.- Aikido just helps me enjoy the peace more from a more centered place,
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Old 03-04-2008, 10:59 PM   #30
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Peace is a STATE of mind where you can go IN and OUT.
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Old 03-05-2008, 08:23 PM   #31
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Peace is waking up Christmas morning with a mouse bitting your fingertips because your arm is hanging over a small aluminum cot thats too short for you. You then walk to the phones to call your family but the line is too big. Failing your call home you throw on body armor and equipment that is very heavy and very hot, you're sweating just standing still, and you head off to work. You tired, pissed off, hungry and haven't seen your family in half a year.
You then drive through a disgusting collection of shanties made of deadwood, mud and garbage. Kids are using a stick to roll a bicycle tire around for entertainment, other kids are flying a kite. Activities which before you're presence would have resulted in the shit being beat out of them. The kids stop to wave at you as you roll past because now thanks to you're sacrifice, it's no longer illegal (and punishable) to literally laugh, tell jokes, sing in public or fly a kit.

To me that is peace.

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If you're tired, keep moving.
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Old 03-06-2008, 02:47 PM   #32
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Re: What is 'Peace', anyways?

Thanks Bronson.
Jen
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Old 03-06-2008, 02:52 PM   #33
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Peace is waking up Christmas morning with a mouse bitting your fingertips because your arm is hanging over a small aluminum cot thats too short for you. You then walk to the phones to call your family but the line is too big. Failing your call home you throw on body armor and equipment that is very heavy and very hot, you're sweating just standing still, and you head off to work. You tired, pissed off, hungry and haven't seen your family in half a year.
You then drive through a disgusting collection of shanties made of deadwood, mud and garbage. Kids are using a stick to roll a bicycle tire around for entertainment, other kids are flying a kite. Activities which before you're presence would have resulted in the shit being beat out of them. The kids stop to wave at you as you roll past because now thanks to you're sacrifice, it's no longer illegal (and punishable) to literally laugh, tell jokes, sing in public or fly a kit.

To me that is peace.
So, to understand this a little I'll paraphrase. Correct me if I'm wrong:
Peace is a relative term that relates to the inclusion of joy or play or laughter, and that, perhaps, is a description of freedom also.Maybe It comes from the creation of 'space' to be in one's true nature.

Personally, from me, Thanks for your sacrifice.
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Old 03-07-2008, 08:14 PM   #34
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Hi Jen,

A relative term for sure. There is the dictionary term and everyones individual idea of what I would say inner peace is. I think it has a lot to do with someones morals outlook on life and ideology.

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Old 03-07-2008, 08:23 PM   #35
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I am sitting in my backyard next to my South American grill (slow grill over REAL wood coals) with good friends/family. Slowly grilling a nice PEACE of dry-aged sirloin that was seasoned with truffle salts for six hours. It is a beautiful, sunny day in the low 80's. We are sipping a nice 2001 California Carbernet sauvignon out of hand-blown Reidel glasses, (the wine decanted for several hours of course!). We are discussing the merits of having another bottle of cab (that is also decanting) with the first course, or starting in on that 1982 Chateau Latour- decanted for at least five hours (and saving the other cab for the cheese desert).

Peace-> that settled feeling in your hara, right next to that wonderful meal that is digesting, while watching a nice sunset

Marc Abrams

I could not believe reading this. Surely this is a described peace that is not available to just anyone.

In gassho,

Mark

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Old 03-07-2008, 10:02 PM   #36
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I like this:

http://wahiduddin.net/words/shalom.htm
In this description we have a picture that is not referential to its' negative.

'peace'

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Old 03-10-2008, 10:20 PM   #37
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The sound of people taking a break from waxing philosophical and training intelligently
Actually, taking a break from waxing my legs and training teenagers.


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Old 03-11-2008, 08:32 AM   #38
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Mark:

I was another country helping bring supplies and services to indigenous people who were not well loved by their country, cut off from the access to things that we consider basic. Sat down with one of the people from a village that we went to and shared a drink that he had brought to me. I was pretty much covered in mud, sweat soaked clothing, sitting in the shade of a tree with that person. I was in peace at that moment as well.

As I said before, peace (to me) is a state of mind that is only made better by good friends, good family, healthy life, good food, and better drinks! At that moment, it was a GREAT drink that I shared with that person. As to the other moments of "peace" that I described, I have worked very hard in my life to achieve some degree of success and comfort with which I can enjoy my peace in. I am not embarrassed by it, ashamed by it, or elitist about it. I never forget the times when I was broke and could not afford enough food to last me through a weekend. I do not forget those that are needy (my school has a collection box for the local food bank).

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Old 03-11-2008, 09:31 AM   #39
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Mark:

I have worked very hard in my life to achieve some degree of success and comfort with which I can enjoy my peace in. I am not embarrassed by it, ashamed by it, or elitist about it. I never forget the times when I was broke and could not afford enough food to last me through a weekend. I do not forget those that are needy (my school has a collection box for the local food bank).

Regards,

Marc Abrams
Marc,

When I grew up, as the son of a farmworker, I thought I was happy. When I became a farmworker myself, it was tough. But, I was in the best health of my life and I learned to enjoy the lifestyle.

When I went to college and later became a lawyer, they told me that "as a farmworker" I had been poor and taken advantage of by the man.

When, I almost went bankrupt, I at the time believed that they were right.,,my childhood had to have been poor and unhappy.

When, I later had "some degree of success", I had come full circle. I was better for it. I realized that I had a better childhood as the son of a farmworker, than most people.

I agree with you "peace is a frame of mind". I understand totally. I'll clink my glass of wine with you.

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Old 03-11-2008, 11:20 AM   #40
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Peace has all kinds of different outfits, wears all kinds of clothes. There's peace in the middle of war, war in the middle of peace. As the Japanese say: "So desu ka"

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"so desu ka"?

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Old 03-14-2008, 05:34 PM   #42
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"so desu ka"?
Onegasishimasu. "so desu ka" translates as: "oh, really?" But, I am glad you called me on it. For years I had the impression that "so desu ka" had it's english expression in: "so it goes".
I am still hoping that "so it goes" is one of the meanings of "so desu ka"

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Onegaishimasu. Damn! I forgot to do a spell check first!

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