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Old 09-15-2002, 01:01 AM   #1
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AikiWeb Poll for the week of September 15, 2002:

How important is the history of aikido to you?
  • I don't do aikido
  • Not at all
  • Just a little
  • Somewhat
  • Moderately
  • Quite a lot
  • Very much
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Old 09-15-2002, 01:21 AM   #2
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I put quite alot - not so much in that I'm another S. Pranin in the works but I think lineage is very much a part of where my Aikido is.

Ueshiba M. did not develope in a vacuum and the Aikido we get today in heavily influenced by those who were his students. My physical understanding of Aikido is influenced by my mental understanding and that certainly is obtained through the filter of my teacher, the writings of his teacher and what I've learned about the history (oral and written).

The mat is paramount but ....

Peter Rehse Shodokan Aikido
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Old 09-15-2002, 06:41 AM   #3
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I'd agree that the history of the founder and aikido has an influence on how I feel and understand aikido, however I don't believe the priciples of aikido are a human construct, but were 'discovered' by the founder. I was told that Ueshiba had said aikido is a flower that just happened to bloom in Japan.

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Old 09-15-2002, 07:14 AM   #4
Bruce Baker
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Which history? The one that is the clean glorified history, or the one that shows the influence of friends, family, and events that shaped the changes and events to follow?

Yes, history is important in the effect that it gives us a glimpse into the humanity of a persons struggle, and obsticles to be overcome. Hopefully, we learn from advantages, and the mistakes of others from learning history.
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Old 09-15-2002, 11:18 AM   #5
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IMHO, where we come from (history) and where we are now (present), give us some idea of where we will end up (future) if we carry on the same course. IMHO, the three points of reference are all equally very important.

Until again,


Lynn Seiser PhD
Yondan Aikido & FMA/JKD
We do not rise to the level of our expectations, but fall to the level of our training. Train well. KWATZ!
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Old 09-17-2002, 12:31 PM   #6
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So, for people who said that the history of aikido is important to them, what kind of research have you done?

For people who don't feel the history of aikido is very important, why not?

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Old 09-17-2002, 12:59 PM   #7
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Pragmatically speaking, it seems to me that the history of aikido as importaint in being a proficient aikidoka as, say, the history of mathematics is important for being a proficient mathematician. It is interesting, but not decisive. I'm not talking about the philosophical aspects of aikido - it would be reasonable to look more thoroughly into the origins and the development of aikido over the years to better understand the philosophy behind it. But for me, being on the mat as much as possible is much more important. At least for now.

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Old 09-17-2002, 04:11 PM   #8
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I feel it is important as many concepts are explained in the history. Understanding history on any level is very beneficial in general. Ok, ok, I know I sound like some college puke writing a brown-nose essay for his history prof. But think about it. Maybe tonight's newby won't understand why he needs to know that O Sensei got his ideas from Daito Ryu or Tohei sensei was influnaced by Nakamura or he was Uchi Deshi, ect. But one day it will all come together and it will make more sense. By knowing these things, Aikido becomes more than just a new way of throwing people around.

Happy Shugyo,

John B. Davis
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