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Old 10-27-2009, 09:58 AM   #26
Keith Larman
Dojo: AIA, Los Angeles, CA
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Re: Shoulder Pain

Interesting discussion...

Just to go back to what I said originally...

I recently had a long lunch with a number of people who were discussing it. 2 physicians, 1 physical therapist, and one orthopod (the wife is in the medical field so I often find myself being virtually dissected by friends as I'm often a walking injury-fest). So yet again I was the topic of conversation. They got much into the same discussion about NSAIDs but they were pretty clear there isn't a "absolutely don't" vs. "absolutely do" issue here. So I asked the question "well, say I take a slightly odd fall on my shoulder (something I've done before) and get up the next day sore and stiff. They had no problem there with a day or two of NSAID's in that sort of situation. The idea here is to help assist the ice, rest, etc. in getting the swelling down to help out with the initial healing process and for the more relevant (it seemed to me) reason that they reduce discomfort. If in a few days it wasn't getting better, well, stop the NSAID's anyway as they are of diminishing value (to the point of possibly hindering eventually). Then it's off to see the doctor to see if there was a more significant injury. Their concern appeared to be that they didn't want me taking them all the time as a matter of course even if I have chronic problems (which I do). But they also felt that they can serve a useful purpose when taken appropriately.

Not trying to influence anyone one direction or the other -- I'm just a dumb sword polisher with an expensive Liberal Arts education (sorry, mom and dad). Just passing along a recent conversation. And being anecdotal and second hand knowledge and all that it won't hold up in a formal debate, so there you go...

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Old 11-02-2009, 09:30 PM   #27
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Re: Shoulder Pain

Once again, thanks alot to everyone for their input. I had to take a week or so off because I got pretty sick, and I think it's given my shoulder a great opportunity for rest. I plan to get back at it on either Thursday or Saturday, still trying to get some crap out of my chest. Thanks so much!

Just rolling down the Aikido road.
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Old 11-03-2009, 12:56 PM   #28
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Re: Shoulder Pain

I suggest some stretches before class, maybe since you have not done Aikido in awhile your muscles are tense & not used to this activity. Make sure your rolls are correct, get together with someone senior to watch you. Last time I had problems with my shoulders, I'm pretty sure it had something to do with lifting weights. My shoulder hurt a lot and I couldn't do anythhing, but the pain did go away in a couple days. I did take ibupropen at the time. You may be able to do some exercises to strengthen your shoulder muscles which the doctor can direct you to do. Remember, when you go back to class, take it easy!
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Old 11-03-2009, 01:57 PM   #29
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Re: Shoulder Pain

Once again, a reminder that stretching before a workout has no proven benefit. It is warming range of motion that is of benefit prior to a workout.

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Old 11-04-2009, 08:35 PM   #30
Lyle Laizure
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Re: Shoulder Pain

A few shots of sake will help warm the body for training.

Lyle Laizure
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Old 11-04-2009, 11:54 PM   #31
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Re: Shoulder Pain

Keith Larman wrote: View Post
And being anecdotal and second hand knowledge and all that it won't hold up in a formal debate, so there you go...
Sometimes it's nice just to be a bit more conversational. I enjoyed it, for what it's worth.

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