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Old 01-20-2016, 07:49 AM   #151
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Re: Aiki-Ken vs reality

FYI, Hansel, this is a six-year-old thread.
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Old 01-20-2016, 08:43 AM   #152
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Re: Aiki-Ken vs reality

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FYI, Hansel, this is a six-year-old thread.
Really?

This website is a long-form conversation about an art dating back about 80 years -- itself formed in deep conversation with martial traditions dating back thousands of years -- and you quibble about a measly gap of six years in this part of that loooooong conversation ...

Perspective.

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Old 01-20-2016, 09:36 AM   #153
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FYI, Hansel, this is a six-year-old thread.
So? Its just old. It ain't closed.
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Old 01-20-2016, 10:36 AM   #154
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So? Its just old. It ain't closed.
So, the person you're responding to may no longer be reading. That's all.
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Old 01-20-2016, 10:56 AM   #155
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Re: Aiki-Ken vs reality

Funny I always respond to the last posts since I last looked. Who ever reads the OPs.

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Old 01-22-2016, 10:50 AM   #156
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Re: Aiki-Ken vs reality

Well, it looks like the OP has quit the site altogether, but the name of the thread is an issue for me. Fine to talk about Aikiken versus Kenjutsu. The original clip is a bit of awase with some extra cuts tacked on the end, not sure I call it more real than Aikiken. Aikiken isn't necessarily representative of Aikido weapons practice.

I don't have a Kenjutsu background, but I know karate and Taiji forms have been badly transmitted, embellished, rewritten for competitions and public demos to entice new students. I have had people claim an unbroken lineage; I have never had someone tell me that this is exactly how a form was done four hundred years ago, and had it proven unequivically true. Not saying it doesn't happen, but four hundreds years of history might leave something divorced from reality too. Methods were not uniform. One story of Musashi was how he was devastating effective against an established school because he didn't move as the Ryu said he should. He did stuff wrong, and looked sloppy.
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