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07-15-2006, 09:59 AM
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Re: What does it mean to be an Aikidoka
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To my defense I'll say that English is my second language!
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No need for a defense I only know one language so you're way ahead of me!
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His arrogant manner rubbed off on his students, and those who were arrogant to begin with just became obnoxious
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Thats one of the worst things about martial arts in my opinion - ego. Like techniques (including bad habits) I think an instructors ego and attitude rub off on their students in a big way.
I've found that in a lot of other arts (speaking with students, not practicing it) there is a need to prove their effectiveness which usually includes pointing out the faults in other styles of martial arts. "My style is the best, yours is crap" They don't seem content with doing their own martial art while someone else does something different.
I find 'aikidoa' really stand out in the martial arts community because more often than not they are the opposite of this need to prove yourself mentality.
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If you're hungry, keep moving.
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07-15-2006, 01:18 PM
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Location: Frederick, MD
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Re: What does it mean to be an Aikidoka
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I've attended a dojo where the teacher doesn't 'teach' humility at all,...
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I don't teach humility either. I teach budo.
Don't have time to do all that subtle crap. It's all I can do to try to show my students how to move, think, react and hopefully get the frak out of the way.
Can you TEACH humility? I thot it was kind of a personal thing ... you know, personal responsibility and all that.
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07-15-2006, 03:47 PM
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Dojo: Nishin Kan
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Re: What does it mean to be an Aikidoka
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Chuck Gordon wrote:
I don't teach humility either. I teach budo.
Don't have time to do all that subtle crap. It's all I can do to try to show my students how to move, think, react and hopefully get the frak out of the way.
Can you TEACH humility? I thot it was kind of a personal thing ... you know, personal responsibility and all that.
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Uhm.. I won't claim to know how one teaches humility, but sometimes you know when a class is lacking that. I think honesty with the students was missing there. Perhaps too much positive feedback.
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07-15-2006, 04:04 PM
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Re: What does it mean to be an Aikidoka
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Uhm.. I won't claim to know how one teaches humility...
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Maybe being uke for NagaBaba.
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Go ahead, tread on me.
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07-16-2006, 10:37 AM
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Re: What does it mean to be an Aikidoka
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Uhm.. I won't claim to know how one teaches humility
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I would say teach by example.
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If you're hungry, keep moving.
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If you value you're life, keep moving.
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07-16-2006, 02:35 PM
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Dojo: Alamo City Aikido
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Re: What does it mean to be an Aikidoka
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"... ponder this on the Tree of Woe."
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THAT'S IT!!! Thanks to John Boswell I now know the answer! Here it is:
"Crawsh your enemy...see zem driven bevore you..aahnd hear zeh lamentation of zeh vemon!!"
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07-17-2006, 06:12 AM
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Dojo: KiAikido Bicol Foundation Inc., Legazpi City Philippines (www.geocities.com/kabfiorg/index.html
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Re: What does it mean to be an Aikidoka
Being an Aikidoka --- one must enternalize all basic principles in Aikido.The Love of Harmony and One who respects individual Ki.
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07-17-2006, 07:18 AM
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Dojo: Kiburn, London, UK
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Re: What does it mean to be an Aikidoka
Damn, after reading those beautiful posts I'll have to start voting the "don't do aikido again" in Jun's polls... alternatively I could always start taking mushroom tea again.
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07-17-2006, 08:41 AM
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Dojo: Dartington
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Re: What does it mean to be an Aikidoka
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Ian Hurst wrote:
Damn, after reading those beautiful posts I'll have to start voting the "don't do aikido again" in Jun's polls... alternatively I could always start taking mushroom tea again.
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Ah..that's where you get your venerability from
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Success is having what you want. Happiness is wanting what you have.
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07-17-2006, 02:54 PM
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Dojo: Harmonys Gate
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Re: What does it mean to be an Aikidoka
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Now what aikido is and what aikido means to you is an all together different thing.
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In retrospect I probably should have phrased the title "What does it mean to be an aikidoka to you" but I left it open not for correction but for your own interpretation. Take what you will away from this thread, we as aikidoka know deep inside what Aikido means and what it means to each of us individually. It is different for each person but, it is just one of the many paths we all travel to get to the same destination.
Thank you all for your comments.
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04-15-2009, 12:21 PM
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Dojo: New River Aikikai
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Re: What does it mean to be an Aikidoka
I am brand new to this website, so please forgive me if no one knows who I am. I have just begun studying aikido and in the three months that i have practiced, my opinion about the art has changed completely. At first it was, when can I get my black belt and how do I throw someone down and make it look really cool...
Now, I come to class to train, learn and live a better life through the practice of aikido. I think for me, this is what an aikidoka is.
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04-15-2009, 09:46 PM
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Re: What does it mean to be an Aikidoka
Really not much outside of being a person who shows mercy over killing, and who studies Aikido to make the world a better place.
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01-24-2010, 04:01 PM
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Location: Red Deer
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Re: What does it mean to be an Aikidoka
To me it means learning to get along with others instead of contending;....having more of an accepting disposition; freedom from fear of external forces to be oneself....striving through disciplined training to become more like the good characters I admire in history. Seeing things for what they are. Leaning about one's true self.
Learning to form sincere connections with others.
On the subject of humility:
Before honor is humility.
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Self-discipline is the chief element of self-esteem; and self-esteem the chief element of courage. Thucydides
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01-24-2010, 05:59 PM
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Re: What does it mean to be an Aikidoka
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Before honor is humility.
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Not in the dictionary it's not.
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01-24-2010, 09:55 PM
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Re: What does it mean to be an Aikidoka
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Not in the dictionary it's not.
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Thank you for informing me and contributing to the discussion.
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Self-discipline is the chief element of self-esteem; and self-esteem the chief element of courage. Thucydides
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01-25-2010, 06:30 AM
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Re: What does it mean to be an Aikidoka
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Thank you for informing me and contributing to the discussion.
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Yes, well, as you were resurrecting a nine-month-old thread ("discussion" might be a bit of a stretch after that amount of time), I didn't see any great harm in injecting a little humor.
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01-25-2010, 07:10 AM
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Dojo: Hiroshima Kokusai Dojo
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Re: What does it mean to be an Aikidoka
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Hello,
Gosh, I'd love to be like this. I think I've got the compassion and protection bits right, but being swift and agile as the wind through the trees (as in Star Wars VI) is somewhat difficult now (at my age), though the inner fire is still there and is probably as unquenchable was it was when I first started. And I have found that things take rather longer to change than in an instant. But, YMMV.
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01-25-2010, 11:39 AM
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Re: What does it mean to be an Aikidoka
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Yes, well, as you were resurrecting a nine-month-old thread ("discussion" might be a bit of a stretch after that amount of time), I didn't see any great harm in injecting a little humor.
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Truth be told Mrs. Malmros, my initial reaction was defensive and one of "well na na na boo boo to you as well". Not knowing from where you were coming from I decided on the high road, (even though I admit it sounds a little sarcastic) and I see it paid dividends as I now know it was meant in jest.
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Self-discipline is the chief element of self-esteem; and self-esteem the chief element of courage. Thucydides
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01-25-2010, 11:47 AM
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Re: What does it mean to be an Aikidoka
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I'm with the proffessor on this one.
Bryant I must say, either you're an old soul in his twenties that walks the nature trails with hands clasped behind his back pondering the sound of one hand clapping with Squirrelfart, your trusty familiar on your shoulder; or you watch too much Crouching Tiger movies.
(Forgive me; I couldn't resist....I'm laughing with you not at you).
"My bad" in the colloquial.
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Self-discipline is the chief element of self-esteem; and self-esteem the chief element of courage. Thucydides
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01-25-2010, 12:09 PM
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Re: What does it mean to be an Aikidoka
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I decided on the high road
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That was the "high road"?
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01-25-2010, 01:12 PM
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Dojo: Aikido of Reno
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Re: What does it mean to be an Aikidoka
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I'm with the proffessor on this one.
Bryant I must say, either you're an old soul in his twenties that walks the nature trails with hands clasped behind his back pondering the sound of one hand clapping with Squirrelfart, your trusty familiar on your shoulder; or you watch too much Crouching Tiger movies.
(Forgive me; I couldn't resist....I'm laughing with you not at you).
"My bad" in the colloquial.
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It does you good to get out in the fresh air. - The Way of Mrs. Cosmopilite
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01-25-2010, 02:38 PM
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Dojo: aikido academy/alhambra,california
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Re: What does it mean to be an Aikidoka
To be an aikidoka is to feel and be humbly grateful;
Grateful for the Founder, for devoting his life,skills and commitment to create a workable path for us to study and to emulate in our own way.
Grateful for the Second Doshu, for using his influence, unique character, and his devotion to maintaining the environment for his father's marvelous gift to mankind to be available over generations.
Grateful to the Sensei's, Sempai's, training peers, unconditional love from our family and friends to allow us to walk our paths with dignity, purpose and some success.
Grateful to the current and incoming generations of devoted seekers of the Way of Aiki, that help validate all the work that has been done before, the foundation for keeping the spirit of the Founder's dream alive and vibrant. Their promise of change and epiphanies fuel our work even more today.
Grateful for Jun Akiyama, the Aiki Web, and for all the invaluable posts and contributions that keep our conversations alive and ongoing.
You get to fill in your own contributions from here.
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01-25-2010, 03:35 PM
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Re: What does it mean to be an Aikidoka
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That was the "high road"?
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It's all right......shhh...You'll be okay.
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Self-discipline is the chief element of self-esteem; and self-esteem the chief element of courage. Thucydides
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01-25-2010, 04:16 PM
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Dojo: Aikido of Reno
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Re: What does it mean to be an Aikidoka
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It's all right......shhh...You'll be okay.
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What did you do to the Haggis?
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01-26-2010, 06:37 AM
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Dojo: Phil. Aikikai/Santiago Aikido Club
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Re: What does it mean to be an Aikidoka
If I may add, on this tread...., b’coz I think, I like where this tread is heading, reading from the posts above; it encourage me to share something out.
>To be an Aikidoka’ for me is to know why Aikido; is ‘different from every Other Martial Arts’? & to know ‘where it came from’? The ‘mission & vision’ of the ‘founder’; & who is ‘Morihie Ueshiba’? & why should I have to wear a ‘HAKAMA & DOGI’? What are the ‘Virtues’? and finally ‘what; is it all there in AIKIDO’? & why I have the feeling; so uncontagious that I need to share it w/everyone
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