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11-07-2006, 12:59 AM
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Osama bin Laden, O-Sensei's evil side?
Do any of you think Osama bin Laden could be O-Sensei's evil,
middle eastern side, not that being middle eastern has anything to do with being evil?
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11-07-2006, 01:49 AM
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Re: Osama bin Laden, O-Sensei's evil side?
thank you for the most retarded post I have EVER seen on any website or forum, seriously, you deserve all of our congratulations!
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11-07-2006, 01:52 AM
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Re: Osama bin Laden, O-Sensei's evil side?
Yeah, Sean... what the H3LL are you talking about?
Boon.
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11-07-2006, 03:02 AM
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Re: Osama bin Laden, O-Sensei's evil side?
errr... emmm... well, good luck with that...
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11-07-2006, 03:30 AM
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Re: Osama bin Laden, O-Sensei's evil side?
Hang on, there is an amazing physical resemblance between the two!
(At least they both have beards....)
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11-07-2006, 04:02 AM
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Dojo: University of Ulster, Coleriane
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Re: Osama bin Laden, O-Sensei's evil side?
Never met either of them; I've always thought beards make people look more friendly
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11-07-2006, 04:19 AM
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Re: Osama bin Laden, O-Sensei's evil side?
How many more posts can this thread stay in "General"?
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11-07-2006, 05:32 AM
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Dojo: Nishin Kan
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Re: Osama bin Laden, O-Sensei's evil side?
I read Sean's other posts - he's the 13 yo who talked about creating his own techniques. Maybe he means that while Osensei aimed at accepting all people, Bin Laden aims at subjugating all people! Or maybe he's joking. Heck, when i was 13 I probably had crazier ideas.
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11-07-2006, 06:07 AM
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Dojo: Sensei Aikido Dojo / Marikina Metro Manila
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Re: Osama bin Laden, O-Sensei's evil side?
Thats so cool.....
Maybe this thread should be moved to the Humor section...
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Hang on, there is an amazing physical resemblance between the two!
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OMG!!! O___O
Last edited by shadowedge : 11-07-2006 at 06:07 AM.
Reason: spell check
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11-07-2006, 06:08 AM
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Re: Osama bin Laden, O-Sensei's evil side?
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thank you for the most retarded post I have EVER seen on any website or forum, seriously, you deserve all of our congratulations!
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This one runs it close in the 'retarded' stakes though....
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11-07-2006, 06:18 AM
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Re: Osama bin Laden, O-Sensei's evil side?
This ain't a bad idea though, we need action figures, to merchandize off our new saturday morning cartoon!
Aiki-Force! ®
Join our fearless leader, O Sensei Ueshiba Morihei, and his courageous band of Uchideschi, as they battl, er, blend it out with the Terrorist-Bad-Dudes® of the nefarious and very Un-Aiki, ..., Osama bin Laden, iesneS O!
Next season we'll Roll-Out a whole new good guy to love, as he gets into all kind of hijinx while getting to know Irimi-Tenkan!
Cut Scene to Shawn House-Singer: "I read my Tin Can? What?"
michael.
Just joshing, Sean, it's good to keep the brain open to random cross-linking nonlinear correlations. I'd bet my sense of humor, (haha, for what that's worth) that such an ability will lend itself more to developing a feeling and awareness of many of the tenets of aikido, much more so than keeping one's mouth shut for fear of taking some comedy ukemi. So keep it up! Your input thresholds are fine, perhaps refine your output a bit.
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11-07-2006, 08:40 AM
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Re: Osama bin Laden, O-Sensei's evil side?
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...random cross-linking nonlinear correlations...
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I think I sprained my brain getting my head around that one...
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11-07-2006, 08:43 AM
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Re: Osama bin Laden, O-Sensei's evil side?
I recommend ice, liquids, and maybe some ibuprofen.
Funny, I remember the commas in this post, the previous quoted line could have used one or two.
michael.
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11-07-2006, 11:34 AM
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Dojo: Airenjuku Brighton
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Re: Osama bin Laden, O-Sensei's evil side?
Sean - Most people see no connection, hence the ridicule - it seems like an unnecessary question. You could say both had/have a grand plan for humanity, Osensei was one of peace of course and you get to choose to be a part of it...but its a bit of a stretch.
Jun - Would it be worth putting age by the user-name - or perhaps a junior tag. We include nationality as this helps interpretation of posts. I value what young people have to say and think they need to be treated a bit different than people who are just ignorant (thanks for heads up Roy).
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11-07-2006, 11:49 AM
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Dojo: Doshinkan dojo in Roxborough, Pa
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Re: Osama bin Laden, O-Sensei's evil side?
Well, on the subject of treating young people differently...
In our adult classes, young people of a certain age and maturity are allowed to train. But they must behave as an adult in those classes...if they want leeway, there are children's classes to train in, where more leeway is given because of the age of the participants. Now, there is one fine young woman, who still trains with the children, but she is large enough and proficient enough to train with the adults as well. She is also very mature. I would guess she is 1 or 2 years older than Shaun. I don't know exactly how old she is...there is no need. She isn't trying to re-invent aikido, nor is she comparing Ueshiba Sensei to Bin Laden...and she is very mature in class. And throws me quite handily. I'd say that if she was 18, she would have her shodan.
I guess my point is that if Shaun wants to come online and post with adults...maybe he should behave accordingly, and be treated accordingly...that way he can grow into the position, as it were.
Best,
Ron
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11-07-2006, 12:27 PM
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Re: Osama bin Laden, O-Sensei's evil side?
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Jun - Would it be worth putting age by the user-name - or perhaps a junior tag. We include nationality as this helps interpretation of posts. I value what young people have to say and think they need to be treated a bit different than people who are just ignorant (thanks for heads up Roy).
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Maybe add a SPANK button...
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11-07-2006, 02:23 PM
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Dojo: Airenjuku Brighton
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Re: Osama bin Laden, O-Sensei's evil side?
Ron - Agree the basic rules of the game don't change, but it does affect how I read a post. Something to take into account no?
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11-07-2006, 02:32 PM
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Dojo: Doshinkan dojo in Roxborough, Pa
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Re: Osama bin Laden, O-Sensei's evil side?
I'm not sure I'm smart enough for this one...there are a couple issues...
a) if we are really talking about a child...then there are serious dangers on the internet. That fact changes things somewhat.
b) Of course we make accomodations on the mat for people who are smaller than we are, weaker than we are, etc. It's a question of how many accomodations of what kind.
On the one hand I want to give him a break because of his age. On the other hand, his refusal to "get it" in another thread tells me he needs to take some ukemi...I'm not sure this is the place for him to take it. A dojo and a qualified instructor seem to work better than me through the internet.
Bottom line, I don't know the answer.
Best,
Ron (which in a dojo, would make the answer no...for his safety. Come back when you grows up...)
PS I should make it clear that I realize that this site and the internet are not a dojo...BUT there are some interesting parallels...and in this case I can't quite dismiss them.
Last edited by Ron Tisdale : 11-07-2006 at 02:35 PM.
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11-07-2006, 02:45 PM
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Dojo: Doshinkan dojo in Roxborough, Pa
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Re: Osama bin Laden, O-Sensei's evil side?
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Maybe add a SPANK button...
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Hehe...Clark, some people LIKE spank buttons...
Best,
Ron (Sean, cover your ears!)
PS Shoot...I've probably mis-spelled your name 20 times now! Sorry, no offense intended...
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11-07-2006, 03:43 PM
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Re: Osama bin Laden, O-Sensei's evil side?
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Sean Haeussinger wrote:
Do any of you think Osama bin Laden could be O-Sensei's evil,
middle eastern side, not that being middle eastern has anything to do with being evil?
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Sean. No that doesn't seem likely to me. You've probably come up with something no one else dreamed up.
Ron. I didn't see any age limits on the site when I joined. Just requirements about treating other posters respectfully. Sean's posts haven't been offensive or disrespectful as far as I can see. Some of the responses, not yours, have been pretty rude. A few threads doesn't seem like a lot of bandwidth to devote to anyone. Its not as if we haven't had weirder questions posed on the site before.
Regards,
Mark
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11-07-2006, 04:58 PM
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Re: Osama bin Laden, O-Sensei's evil side?
I was having my suspicions in the "new technique" thread - now I'm increasingly convinced Sean is no more 13 than I am. I smell troll.
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11-07-2006, 05:05 PM
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Dojo: Airenjuku Brighton
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Re: Osama bin Laden, O-Sensei's evil side?
Ron - Nice to read a post with two sides and no conclusive "I know best." Hard issues to work out as you say.
Respects,
Mark
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11-07-2006, 11:15 PM
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Dojo: Aikido Yoshinkai Ottawa
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Re: Osama bin Laden, O-Sensei's evil side?
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Sean Haeussinger wrote:
Do any of you think Osama bin Laden could be O-Sensei's evil,
middle eastern side, not that being middle eastern has anything to do with being evil?
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Hmmm, no. Not at all.
A word of advice, Sean: while some people here might laugh at you and ridicule you for saying something like this, you probably won't ever get to see them or train with them. If you say something like this on the mat, you might offend (or weird out) a person or two, especially if they have a bit of O-Sensei worship (which is not uncommon).
Tom
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11-07-2006, 11:32 PM
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Dojo: Aikido of Diablo Valley / ASU
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Re: Osama bin Laden, O-Sensei's evil side?
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Sean Haeussinger wrote:
Do any of you think Osama bin Laden could be O-Sensei's evil,
middle eastern side, not that being middle eastern has anything to do with being evil?
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Sean, I'd recommend that you look up some articles on Osama bin Laden, Morihei Ueshiba, and then draw your own conclusions. A quick check shows that the Wikipedia has articles on both people for example.
Marc
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11-07-2006, 11:32 PM
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Re: Osama bin Laden, O-Sensei's evil side?
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This one runs it close in the 'retarded' stakes though....
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Ah thanks Mike, but you give me too much credit! I appreciate the sentiment thought!
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