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Old Yesterday, 08:58 PM   #51
RonRagusa
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Re: Ai-nuke

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By all of the texts and threads that I've read on the subject of aiki, no it won't come by itself.
Peter never said "it will come by itself". He states clearly that Aiki can be the result of dedicated training in Aikido if it's practiced "as Misogi, as tanren and as Shugyo, with an open mind." Attaining a unified mind and body is not exclusive to any single art or practice. There are many paths to achieve Aiki. What you have read here on AikiWeb regarding Aiki has been mostly promotional material for a single training methodology and unsubstantiated arguments that internal training is no longer a part of the Aikido syllabus.

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It takes certain practices to achieve it and even with constant all day training results may vary.
Yes, it does but the training practices are many and varied. Of course results will vary. That's a given.

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Everybody says it takes a looooong time.
While a rudimentary experience of Aiki can be realized in a very short time, degrees of mastery will generally take many years to achieve.

Ron

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Old Today, 05:22 AM   #52
oisinbourke
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When students and teachers of Aikido chase a teacher and student of Daito Ryu and Aiki around the world to restore something to their Aikido, perhaps the methods and mindsets of those teachers need to be looked at.
After all these decades of training, I don't even mind if I am crap at Aikido, I just don't want to be crap at being a human.......
Just a general note on this: Any aikido practcioner who wants to join up or study Daito Ryu to strip mine it to "power up" their aikido just shouldn't bother. It's disrepectful of the tradition at best and actually unethical at worse.

Aikido in general doesn't have a great image in terms of its practicioners going to other traditional arts and taking stuff just to improve/market their aikido. I think there's at least one koryu that simply won't accept aikido practicioners because they got fed up with being ripped off.
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