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11-22-2005, 09:08 AM
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Dojo: Dale City Aikikai
Location: VA
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Re: who'd you go back in time to train with?
I would love to work with Sokaku Takeda and any other person of merit from the old days. The opportunity to learn the differences between Daito Ryu and Aikido and any other ancient Jujitsu art that is no longer available would be priceless. I'm constitantly trying to find out where the techniques originally came from and why it is done the way it is.
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11-22-2005, 10:06 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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Re: who'd you go back in time to train with?
I think I'd go back and give myself a real stern talking to. I quit aikido after college, only to rediscover it 10 years later. Time lost, wisdom gained...
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11-22-2005, 10:16 AM
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Dojo: Dale City Aikikai
Location: VA
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Re: who'd you go back in time to train with?
Mr. Alley, I did the exact same thing although I came back 14 yrs. later. I did attempt to come back earlier but was unable to find a dojo. I could kick myself for all the time lost!
On a sidenote, thank goodness there is a thing called the internet. I would never have been able to find a dojo without it {thanks to the wife for forcing me get up to speed}. It's amazing how many dojos there are in my neck of the woods but they don't advertise in the yellow book. When you do look, you see Tae Kwon Do everywhere.
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11-22-2005, 11:13 AM
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Location: Orlando, FL
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Re: who'd you go back in time to train with?
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Mike Braxton wrote:
When you do look, you see Tae Kwon Do everywhere.
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This is because, in America at least, TKD is pretty much all about business, profit, and self-promotion. It's a shame, really. I can remember one of my teachers (native Korean) having us walk for miles putting handbills on cars, attending sales training seminars, waving at traffic on busy streets, doing demos in bars and nightclubs, and telling parents of prospective students how "coordinated" and "well suited to TKD" their kids already were, even though some could barely put one foot in front of another without falling down. It was embarrasing. I hated it. And it hit rock bottom when he spent a million$$$ to produce an action movie with him as the star, and then went to Cannes to try and promote it. Now he makes his money running seminars and management retreats for those who want to get rich opening "day-care dojos". Sigh...
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11-22-2005, 12:23 PM
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Dojo: Northwest Jujitsu/Coeur D'Alene, ID
Location: Coeur D'Alene
Join Date: May 2004
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Re: who'd you go back in time to train with?
Now if we were to go back, how many of you think you would get a chance based off of your ethnicity?
I am 25% Japanese and I can almost guarantee I wouldn't get a chance to train with some of the people named. So even if we did go back in time, it wouldn't too much matter in a lot of cases.
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11-22-2005, 01:17 PM
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Dojo: White Rose Aikido - Durham University
Location: Gateshead
Join Date: Oct 2003
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Re: who'd you go back in time to train with?
You could probably train with osensei, if you could get 2 letters of reccomendation from pillars of the community and had dan ranking in another art.
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They're all screaming about the rock n roll, but I would say that it's getting old. - REFUSED.
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11-22-2005, 02:55 PM
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Dojo: Aikido Musubi Ryu/ Yoshin Wadokan
Location: Hamilton
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Re: who'd you go back in time to train with?
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if you could get 2 letters of reccomendation from pillars of the community and had dan ranking in another art.
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Oh how things have changed
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"flows like water, reflects like a mirror, and responds like an echo." Chaung-tse
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11-22-2005, 03:43 PM
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Dojo: Jihonjuku/ St.Pete. FL
Location: Palm Harbor, Florida
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Re: who'd you go back in time to train with?
Sorry Rob, the theory your referring too, has one little drawback you can't go back past the time of the vehicle date of construction, if it ever gets developed. According to Amos Ori who proposed the model your referring too. It is an interesting theory though- here is the easy short version (only way I could get it) from theoretical physicist Amos Ori:
What I describe is some configuration of spacetime, some distribution of curvature that will allow a physical object or person to move along an orbit and travel back to the past. I wrote mathematically the initial configuration of spacetime, which according to the laws of nature, will evolve into a time machine, provided that the process is not first destroyed by instability. The question is: Will nature allow such a configuration?
So your plan about revisiting seminars may hold possible if this were to work...It is a fascinating theory, though.
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11-22-2005, 11:46 PM
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Location: San Jose
Join Date: Jun 2000
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Re: who'd you go back in time to train with?
I'd like to take a beating from a young Shirata Sensei. I'd like to train one on one with Kato Sensei just to see if I could hang with him as a young guy. Problem is, I'd need to do all this with a young me. This one is too beat up and tired to play with the big boys in their prime. Terry Dobson maybe just before he came back from Japan; Tomiki Sensei while he taught at the Kobukan. And with OSensei in 1925, while he was working stuff out. With Nidai Doshu in 1965 for some reason. With current Doshu in 1979. Wally Jay in 1964-5. Have coffee with Bruce Lee....
There are just too many really amazing possibilities. I'd like to go back and see if I (now) could kick my own (then) butt, and get me straightened out earlier. Or tell my Dad what a smart guy he was. If people could ever begin to go backward, there'd be a population boom in our own immediate past.
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11-23-2005, 12:25 AM
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Dojo: Aikido Philippines
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Re: who'd you go back in time to train with?
I'd like to train with O'Sensei during the time of the "Hell Dojo"! Imagine what it would be like training with all of his top students that time.
I would also like to train with Kano, Funakoshi (karate), Sokaku Takeda, and Musashi.
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11-23-2005, 04:28 AM
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Dojo: White Rose Aikido - Durham University
Location: Gateshead
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Re: who'd you go back in time to train with?
Id like to go back and train with Raquel Welch...
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They're all screaming about the rock n roll, but I would say that it's getting old. - REFUSED.
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11-23-2005, 08:01 AM
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Dojo: Kuroishi/Kitakyushu
Location: Kitakyushu
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Re: who'd you go back in time to train with?
Not to spoil the party, but there is only now.
Good luck,
Eddie
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11-23-2005, 08:31 AM
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Location: Orlando, FL
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Re: who'd you go back in time to train with?
Quote:
Nick Simpson wrote:
Id like to go back and train with Raquel Welch...
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She ain't so bad, even now...
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05-31-2008, 04:36 AM
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Dojo: Wherever I am.
Location: New Zealand
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Re: who'd you go back in time to train with?
Before you go off training with people who probably would refuse to entertain you, it might be a good idea to throw yourselves into a few medeival battles to warm yourselves up. With such experience behind you, if you survive, you might be a little bit more ready to begin. And you might be a little more ready to learn. In short, teachable.
Kinda makes you realise just how hard it is for us, eh?
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05-31-2008, 05:03 AM
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Dojo: Academy of the Martial Arts
Location: ohio
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Re: who'd you go back in time to train with?
Saigo Shiro
Then I would know from the horse's mouth how Yamarashi was really executed.
Sun Lu Tang
Abraham Lincoln - I would like to feel his "Flying Mare" to see if he was really that good.
Georgeous George
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05-31-2008, 05:14 AM
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Dojo: Academy of the Martial Arts
Location: ohio
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Re: who'd you go back in time to train with?
Sampson - after all he did all those Philistines in with the jawbone of an ass.
What technique and spirit he must have had.
And of course Achilles.
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05-31-2008, 06:26 AM
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Dojo: Shobu Aikido of Connecticut
Location: East Haven, CT
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Re: who'd you go back in time to train with?
Oh my gosh, posting in this old thread again - I feel like I'm back in time already. -Rob
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05-31-2008, 10:31 AM
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Dojo: Enighet Malmo Sweden
Location: Malmo
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Same old same old
I'd love to practice for the same teachers that I have enjoyed in real life, like Nishio sensei, Tamura sensei, Yamaguchi sensei, Saito sensei, and so on. Also Osensei, of course, and why not all the way back to Miyamoto Musashi - hoping to survive his stern teaching...
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05-31-2008, 12:00 PM
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Location: bethlehem PA
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Re: who'd you go back in time to train with?
I wouldn't go. To afraid of the "ripple" theory. I may come back to find I was never born!
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05-31-2008, 12:12 PM
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Location: Fayetteville, AR, USA
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Re: who'd you go back in time to train with?
Like someone posted above, i'd love to have a chat with Bruce. Not really train with him, but just have some good convo. The guy was a great philosopher and revolutionary in the martial art world then.
Any of the great generals would be a thrill as well.
Sun Tzu
Napoleon
Alexander the Great
etc.
Imagine the things you could learn from them...
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05-31-2008, 01:17 PM
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Dojo: Messores Sensei (Largo, Fl.)
Location: Florida
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Re: who'd you go back in time to train with?
BUN-Takeda Shingen
BU-Tsukuhara Bokuden
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06-01-2008, 12:38 AM
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Dojo: ISTA
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Re: who'd you go back in time to train with?
Koichi Tohei sensei!!
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06-01-2008, 03:44 PM
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Dojo: Aikido of Suenaka-Ha in Greater Richmond
Location: virginia, U.S.A.
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Re: who'd you go back in time to train with?
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James Davis, Jr. wrote:
I think I'd like to "train" with the guys who jumped me before I knew aikido.
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haha, that was funny
ohwait! u were serious?!
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06-01-2008, 04:17 PM
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Dojo: Central Coast Aikikai
Location: Gosford
Join Date: Jun 2000
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Re: who'd you go back in time to train with?
O'sensei Any time hands down
Takeda Sokaku
Goza Shioda
Gichen Funakoshi
Hinonori Otsuka
Anko Itosu
Iso Mataemon Masatari
Jigaro Kano
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06-01-2008, 04:54 PM
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Dojo: Triangle Aikido Club
Location: Bentonville, AR
Join Date: Jul 2007
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Re: who'd you go back in time to train with?
Taking this to it's logical conclusion - Yoda, pre-clone wars.
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