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Old 08-06-2014, 02:51 PM   #1
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inner spirals

I pushed on Ron's shoulder softly trying to feel which way he was inwardly moving. He subtly corrected each time I found the tiny internal movement. The cool thing is that I could feel the internal spirals.
Then he did the same with me. Have you ever tried this?

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Old 08-07-2014, 11:15 AM   #2
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Re: inner spirals

This sounds similar to some things but I am not sure from the words you have used what the larger purpose of your exercise is, so wonder if you can possibly articulate more fully to say:
Was the purpose of his movement to connect with you, to find you, to evade you or to unbalance you?
When you say you "found" his movement was it that you felt it or that it actually affected you - and if it affected you by unbalancing you (as opposed to making you tense up or resist), why would he want to "correct" it?

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Old 08-07-2014, 03:57 PM   #3
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Re: inner spirals

I felt the movement. I gently pushed to unbalance him a little and he would correct being a little tiny bit unbalanced with re-centering. I could feel the inner spirals. There was no outward motion.

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Old 08-07-2014, 04:06 PM   #4
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I felt the movement. I gently pushed to unbalance him a little and he would correct being a little tiny bit unbalanced with re-centering. I could feel the inner spirals. There was no outward motion.
Dear Mary,
??????????????Hope you do not mind me saying this I find the last couple of your blogs as clear as mud.I hope I have not offended you by this statement.Certainly that is the last thing I would want to do. Cheers, Joe
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Old 08-07-2014, 04:19 PM   #5
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No offence taken, Joe...

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Old 08-07-2014, 05:04 PM   #6
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Re: inner spirals

Spirals ... yes!

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I felt the movement. I gently pushed to unbalance him a little and he would correct being a little tiny bit unbalanced with re-centering. I could feel the inner spirals. There was no outward motion.
OK, thank you, that is more clear.
Yes, with an honest partner willing to take time and give good feedback, much can be felt and much can be learned.

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Old 08-07-2014, 11:45 PM   #8
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I pushed on Ron's shoulder softly trying to feel which way he was inwardly moving. He subtly corrected each time I found the tiny internal movement. The cool thing is that I could feel the internal spirals.
Then he did the same with me. Have you ever tried this?
Growing up on a farm raising, training and showing horses, one of the things I learned from being around them was to keep a hand touching them when close to feel the inner movements of their bodies. If I was to push them I could feel the subtle corrections they would make and I could predict when and what direction they were going to move in.

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Growing up on a farm raising, training and showing horses, one of the things I learned from being around them was to keep a hand touching them when close to feel the inner movements of their bodies. If I was to push them I could feel the subtle corrections they would make and I could predict when and what direction they were going to move in.
That sounds the skill of riding with your legs (to both sense and communicate) -- a skill that I certainly have never had enough time in the saddle to develop, but that I very much admire.
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That sounds the skill of riding with your legs (to both sense and communicate) -- a skill that I certainly have never had enough time in the saddle to develop, but that I very much admire.
No I meant while standing on the ground near the horses. It is best to keep a hand on them as you are moving around them to know when they are going to move so you don't get stepped on or kicked.

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No I meant while standing on the ground near the horses. It is best to keep a hand on them as you are moving around them to know when they are going to move so you don't get stepped on or kicked.
Yes, I understand. It still sounds like it's related to the skill of riding.
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