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Old 05-27-2022, 02:33 PM   #1
CNYMike
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Techniques from Ryote-dori

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Old 06-06-2022, 01:31 PM   #2
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Re: Techniques from Ryote-dori

First one has really deep roots in Daito-ryu despite performed in a different way. I saw it few times however had no chance to ask about teacher it cames from. Anybody aware of it?

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Old 07-01-2022, 10:05 PM   #3
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Re: Techniques from Ryote-dori

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First one has really deep roots in Daito-ryu despite performed in a different way. I saw it few times however had no chance to ask about teacher it cames from. Anybody aware of it?
I'm pretty sure I've seen footage of Morihei Ueshiba O-Sensei performing that one. It seems to be pretty popular amongst a bunch of different aikido lineages. Most aikido groups categorize it as a "kokyuunage" (O-Sensei wasn't great about preserving names, so a bunch of barely related techniques get called that), but you can find it in Daito-ryu's Aiki-no-jutsu set under the name "kagigatame" (meaning "key hold-down"). Exact form in aikido tends to vary a little bit by practitioner, and by the size difference between the two training partners.
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Old 07-04-2022, 04:51 AM   #4
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Re: Techniques from Ryote-dori

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I'm pretty sure I've seen footage of Morihei Ueshiba O-Sensei performing that one. It seems to be pretty popular amongst a bunch of different aikido lineages. Most aikido groups categorize it as a "kokyuunage" (O-Sensei wasn't great about preserving names, so a bunch of barely related techniques get called that), but you can find it in Daito-ryu's Aiki-no-jutsu set under the name "kagigatame" (meaning "key hold-down"). Exact form in aikido tends to vary a little bit by practitioner, and by the size difference between the two training partners.
Main difference between this and Daito-ryu in tactic of using techniques so this is definitely modern Aikido however I doubt Ueshiba did the same 'cause I know how it preforms originally.

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Old 07-28-2022, 01:35 PM   #5
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Re: Techniques from Ryote-dori

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It just looks like an entry to various techniques from the ryote-tori position. The first seems like some weird "kokyunage " the other is kaitenage. All in all nothing special, plus she doesn't press the head down enough for the kaitenage.
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