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Old 01-15-2005, 08:05 PM   #26
Rocky Izumi
Dojo: GUST Aikido Club
Location: Salwa, Kuwait
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 381
Re: Bruising - any help for it?

If the bruise is recent (and for any bone, ligament or tendon damage), try using Zheng Gu Shui 3-5 times a day but only use it for up to 3.5 days. After that, switch to Dit Da Jao (I like the 5 photos brand). Do not use Zheng Gu Shui more than 3.5 days. It is similar to Dit Da Jao in composition but uses an acetone carrier. Overuse will result in deep tissue scarring that will reduce flexibilty and be very difficult to recover from. I find that for sprains, Zheng Gu Shui with icing if very effective during the first 1.5 hours. (Warning: do not get Zheng Gu Shui anywhere near any mucosal tissue . . . guys, wash your hands real good before going to take a leak.) You should be able to feel the heat coming off an injured area that is inflamed. If it is still hot, icing will be effective but I suggest going to a hot/cold treatment within the third day . . . 15 min cold . . . . 15 min hot . . . . 15 min cold. By the time you move to the Dit Da Jao, your injury should start feeling colder than the surrounding areas due to the lack of circulation. At that point, move to a pattern of . . . 15 min hot . . . . 15 min cold . . . 15 min hot. . . . 15 min cold . . . 15 min warm.

This has worked for me, my Sifus, and my students pretty well to speed up healing.


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Old 01-16-2005, 06:09 AM   #27
Niamh Marie O'Leary-Liu
Dojo: Aikido of Ramapo Valley
Location: New Jersey, USA
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 19
Re: Bruising - any help for it?

Like some of the other posters, I'm also the only woman in my dojo and seem to be the most prone there to bruising, even though I haven't noticed any unusual level of bruising compared to other women back when I played in team sports. The bruising is usually on the forearms and usually comes from yokomen strikes (either as uke or nage), yonkyo, and firm grips in techniques like shihonage.

It's been over a year and a half of frequent aikido practice (several times a week) plus light strength training with a trainer at the gym about two times a week. My grip has gotten significantly stronger but my wrists are still small (same watch band size) and I haven't noticed any increase in muscle mass on the outside of my forearm, though I haven't been specifically targeting that area. A little more tone in other parts of the arm but that's it. A strike or firm grab on the wrist/forearm is still impacting almost right on the bone.

There've been some great tips on this thread, some of which I will definitely try. I have a different type of tip: If I have bruised forearms/wrists and have to attend an important meeting for work, I make sure to wear something with long sleeves to avoid any curious or sympathetic stares that can't be addressed over a conference table.

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Old 01-16-2005, 04:15 PM   #28
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Dojo: Tonbo Dojo
Location: Bainbridge Island WA
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 374
Re: Bruising - any help for it?

Do you take aspirin during the day, before or after your aikido classes? This could be contributing.

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