Welcome to AikiWeb Aikido Information
AikiWeb: The Source for Aikido Information
AikiWeb's principal purpose is to serve the Internet community as a repository and dissemination point for aikido information.

Sections
home
aikido articles
columns

Discussions
forums
aikiblogs

Databases
dojo search
seminars
image gallery
supplies
links directory

Reviews
book reviews
video reviews
dvd reviews
equip. reviews

News
submit
archive

Miscellaneous
newsletter
rss feeds
polls
about

Follow us on



Home > AikiWeb Aikido Forums
Go Back   AikiWeb Aikido Forums > General

Hello and thank you for visiting AikiWeb, the world's most active online Aikido community! This site is home to over 22,000 aikido practitioners from around the world and covers a wide range of aikido topics including techniques, philosophy, history, humor, beginner issues, the marketplace, and more.

If you wish to join in the discussions or use the other advanced features available, you will need to register first. Registration is absolutely free and takes only a few minutes to complete so sign up today!

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 12-06-2004, 07:45 PM   #101
Rupert Atkinson
 
Rupert Atkinson's Avatar
Dojo: Wherever I am.
Location: New Zealand
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 955
United Kingdom
Offline
Re: Would you correct your sempai?

Yes, of course Judo is a slightly different situation. Judo also has kata and they are told not to resist but to cooperate when practising kata. No one in their right mind, in Judo, would fight against a technique in kata. And Aikido is mostly, kata, yet some seem to resist like crazy. They do this becuase there is no other way to test whether it really works of not. Actually, although I used to hate this, I now really like it.

One thing that has always driven me nuts though is this scenario: Senior resists until junior does the technique the senior's way, at which time, the senior stops resisting and lets the junior do the technique, thereby implying that it must now be correct... Who is fooling who? Is this the way for correct learning? If the seniors technique is good, then all may be well and good, but often, the diference between the two (junior/senior) is not more than a couple of grades or a few months of training. But sometimes, often maybe, the junior is really not so junior, except in a certain dojo's space.

  Reply With Quote
Old 12-06-2004, 08:19 PM   #102
maikerus
Dojo: Roppongi Yoshinkan Aikido / Roppongi, Tokyo, Japan
Location: Tokyo
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 571
Japan
Offline
Re: Would you correct your sempai?

Quote:
Rupert Atkinson wrote:
One thing that has always driven me nuts though is this scenario: Senior resists until junior does the technique the senior's way, at which time, the senior stops resisting and lets the junior do the technique, thereby implying that it must now be correct... Who is fooling who? Is this the way for correct learning?
Good point. I guess being able to truly resist until you really can't resist anymore is another skill that we learn as we continue our training. In addition, since different people can/will resist in different ways we have to train with more and more people to learn the various ways that people can resist and how to deal with the different body points.

Just a thought. But your point is valid.

--Michael

Hiriki no yosei 3 - The kihon that makes your head ache instead of your legs
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-06-2004, 11:43 PM   #103
Chocolateuke
Dojo: Muhu Dojo
Location: Middle of nowhere in California 14 miles from Buellton
Join Date: Jun 2000
Posts: 238
Offline
Re: Would you correct your sempai?

There is one other possiblity, perhaps the senior student is doing a variation that works for him. Perhaps through his years of Aikido this paticular student found a way that suites him the best. Just because the movmement isn't totally identical than the sensei doesn't mean they are doing it "wrong". You could ask them what they are doing, just curiously, and they might say, Oh i found this effective way back when.... So, there are a few possiblities:

A) Said Sempai is doing the movement wrong
B) You are seing the movement wrong.
C) The Sempai is doing a varation that suites his body type/ movement.

Dallas Adolphsen
  Reply With Quote

Please visit our sponsor:

AikiWeb Sponsored Links - Place your Aikido link here for only $10!



Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Sensei? Sempai? Mona General 27 07-22-2008 05:17 PM
Scared Sempai Dario Rosati Training 38 11-07-2006 02:49 AM
Randori, Sempai and experiences Amir Krause General 28 06-04-2006 02:49 AM
is there a correct learning path? Adrian Moore General 14 11-02-2004 06:23 AM
Mean Sempai BC Humor 2 08-11-2000 08:35 AM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:35 AM.



vBulletin Copyright © 2000-2017 Jelsoft Enterprises Limited
----------
Copyright 1997-2017 AikiWeb and its Authors, All Rights Reserved.
----------
For questions and comments about this website:
Send E-mail
plainlaid-picaresque outchasing-protistan explicantia-altarage seaford-stellionate