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Old 03-03-2004, 08:59 AM   #26
Dojo: American Aikido Institute
Location: Chicago, IL
Join Date: Aug 2000
Posts: 8

So how did your first night go??

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Old 03-03-2004, 11:53 AM   #27
Dojo: formerly Windward Aikido, formerly at Keewenaw Schools of Aikido (ASU)
Location: Formerly Hawaii Pacific University, formerly at Michigan Technological University
Join Date: Jul 2000
Posts: 71


My answer to your original question is that your omote irimi nage should have more entry in the direction of your partner's shikaku. Uke stepping back is natural ukemi if nage pushes them that way. (Wait a second, Peter said this in the first reply.)

While it is dangerous to assume that progress can't be made without formal instruction, reverse engineering anything is also generally more difficult. I'm reminded of a story of a captured warship that was copied so well that every replica had the same patch on the boiler. At this stage, the odds are on the side of practicing ukemi and balance/breathing drills when not being taught by an experienced instructor. (Now I find myself chanting with the chorus; I hate it when that happens.)

That being said, I say train however and whenever you can/feel like it. We all gain bad habits that we need to unlearn. I don't think most of mine stem from my first three months or even my first three years. (I'm beginning to think that my worst habits have been reinforced in the last three minutes.)

Then again I don't know Jack...

"One does not find wisdom in another's words." -James D. Chye
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Old 03-03-2004, 01:10 PM   #28
Jack Robertson
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 64

First night went GREAT!!!!
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Old 03-03-2004, 11:58 PM   #29
James Giles
Dojo: North Florida Aikikai
Location: Tallahassee, Florida
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 53
Jack Robertson wrote:

First night went GREAT!!!!
Hey Jack,

Glad to hear you are taking classes. I am just a beginner myself, and I really am infatuated with Aikido like you are.

I have a lot of books and videos on Aikido also, and I have discovered that although it is virtually impossible to learn to correctly apply Aikido techniques from books and videos, they have helped me a lot with learning and memorizing the names of techniques, stances etc.

As for iriminage, I am just now being exposed to that technique. I am learning shomenuchi iriminage. I am having a very difficult time getting it down, but my Sensei tells me it can take years to develop skill with iriminage (and all Aikido techniques for that matter!).

There are so many subtle movements within each technique that can't be detected in a book or a video. That is why it is a real blessing to have a dojo and a good Sensei to show you the ropes. I am glad that you found a place to train because it sounds like you are as hooked on Aikido as I am - it really is great stuff!
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Old 03-18-2004, 09:17 AM   #30
Dojo: Aikidog Aikikai
Location: Massachusetts
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 199

Now that you've been in class for a couple weeks, what do you think?

You haven't posted since the start, so I've been wondering how things are going.
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Old 03-19-2004, 04:21 PM   #31
Location: South West UK
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 216
As I understand it,

You enter off center line,

Close down with the close hand and wait for the tsuki to pass you, then with that same hand make the throw and have the other hand on the shoulder.

"Minimum Effort, Maximum Effciency."
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Old 03-19-2004, 07:35 PM   #32
Jack Robertson
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 64

For the first week, the techniques just went in one ear and out the other. My partners were very patient and helped me out a ton!

On the 2nd week it was kind of the same. I was still having a lot of trouble doing the techniques.

On the third week, I missed monday and tuesday classes because it snowed, and I didn't want my dad to drive in it.

I just finished the last class of the 3rd week. I think I have a little bit more of an idea of what I'm doing now. Though, I still have difficulty with many techniques, Sensei is very helpful.
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Old 03-19-2004, 08:26 PM   #33
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Dojo: Aikido of Petaluma, Petaluma,CA
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 834
Sounds just about right! keep training (and don't fret about missing classes)


"It is not wise to be incautious when confronting a little smiling bald man"'- Rule #1
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Old 03-20-2004, 06:48 AM   #34
Location: South West UK
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 216
It doesnt get any easier for ages....

Just when you feel you have an idea about a technique, Uke ups the tempo and it all changes....

But just stay on the mat and the answers well come (apparently :S)

"Minimum Effort, Maximum Effciency."
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Old 03-22-2004, 01:12 PM   #35
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Dojo: Tonbo Dojo
Location: Bainbridge Island WA
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 374
it's the 20 year throw, practice it for twenty years, then come askin' for help

"Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity"
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Old 03-23-2004, 08:35 AM   #36
Dojo: Kododan Aikido USA
Location: Radford Virginia
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 201
Chris Gee (Kensai) wrote:
.... just stay on the mat and the answers well come (apparently :S)
I try to stay on the mat, but Sensei keeps saying, "Get up and come again!"

jon harris

Life is a journey...
Now, who took my @#$%! map?!
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Old 03-23-2004, 01:02 PM   #37
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Nathan gidney (p00kiethebear) wrote:
it's the 20 year throw, practice it for twenty years, then come askin' for help
One more time I hear this nonsense, I'm going to pour a plate of borsch on that person's head.
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Old 03-24-2004, 06:55 AM   #38
Nick Simpson
Dojo: White Rose Aikido - Durham University
Location: Gateshead
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 916
United Kingdom
I thought I had it down pretty well after roughly 15 months and then we had to change some aspects of it for grading style/"now you know it like that, this is the right way to do it that I expect of a senior student". Caused me no end of frustration for a few months But man, it's a lovely technique when you nail some one with it!

They're all screaming about the rock n roll, but I would say that it's getting old. - REFUSED.
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