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Old 09-21-2003, 09:01 AM   #1
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There's ukemi and there *ukemi*

Day-um

http://www.urbanfreeflow.com/UrbanFr...ngTutorial.htm

Click on the animated gif link half way down the page.


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Old 09-21-2003, 09:35 AM   #2
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Re: There's ukemi and there *ukemi*

And while I'm here, these are pretty damn funny too

Ad's for the 2003 Judo World Champs.

....Japanese Ads.

You've been warned ;-)

http://www.judoclub.ca/mpegs/judo_cm05.ram

http://www.judoclub.ca/mpegs/judo_cm06.ram

http://www.judoclub.ca/mpegs/judo_cm07.ram
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Old 09-21-2003, 09:43 AM   #3
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Yeah, my aging knees hurt from watching that jump, but it's not THAT bad, Bob. I would've been really impressed if he actually dove down the steps into the roll, instead of jumping and landing on his feet, then rolling. Still, kudos to him for putting his joints at risk...
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Old 09-21-2003, 10:09 AM   #4
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Yeah, my aging knees hurt from watching that jump, but it's not THAT bad, Bob. I would've been really impressed if he actually dove down the steps into the roll
Well.... AikiWeb is always gonna be a tough room ;-)

I'll keep looking. There are some pics of them jumping off of walls and such into breakfalls I think.

Viva la France. That's one nutty sport.

BTW John....
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Kids making you watch Sponge Bob? ;-)

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Old 09-21-2003, 12:00 PM   #5
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Hello,

On LeParkour's main site there are some more astonishing clips. I particularly like the topmost left one on this page.

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Old 09-21-2003, 02:25 PM   #6
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Check out some of those videos on that urbanfreeflow site, those kids are doing some crazy stuff. Like skating, without a board or blades...

I wanna learn how to do some of that stuff =P
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Old 09-21-2003, 02:34 PM   #7
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This is the first time I've heard of LeParkour. Amazing.
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Old 09-22-2003, 12:03 AM   #8
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This is the first time I've heard of LeParkour. Amazing.
We aim to please Mr Wilbanks, we aim to please ;-)

Their motto - "Die Trying".

Which, in retrospect, wouldn't be that difficult to achieve. ;-)

They do some cool stunts though. What now with the sudden upswing in interest in gymnastics / tumbling in some circles as GPP, I expect we'll be hearing a lot more of it.
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Old 09-22-2003, 05:21 AM   #9
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Fantastic - I saw the recent 'jump London' on channel 4 which was very interesting. I can see this stuff taking off as the new urban sport.

I noticed when he does a role he doesn't let his knee touch the ground (as we would). This is actually the way I used to role as a beginner. Do you think it is better than a standard ukemi on concrete?

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Old 09-22-2003, 07:01 AM   #10
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I have heard of a guy named Joe Eigo before who does some great acrobatics stuff, but I don't remember his website or anything, now. It's great stuff, if you can find it.

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Old 09-22-2003, 07:34 AM   #11
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Steffen, those Le Parkour guys are nuts, in a good way. Thanks for the link.
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BTW John....

"In a pineapple, under the sea..."

Kids making you watch Sponge Bob? ;-)
Yeah...can't be watching those lingerie models on Fashion TV with impressionable little ones running around.
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Old 09-22-2003, 08:07 AM   #12
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I have heard of a guy named Joe Eigo before who does some great acrobatics stuff, but I don't remember his website or anything, now. It's great stuff, if you can find it.
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Old 09-23-2003, 01:38 PM   #13
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What now with the sudden upswing in interest in gymnastics / tumbling in some circles as GPP, I expect we'll be hearing a lot more of it.
Sorry but, "GPP"?
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Old 09-23-2003, 03:15 PM   #14
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GPP = General Physical Preparation,

as opposed to:

SPP = Specific Physical Preparation.

In most athletic activities, participants are expected to undertake a good amount of GPP prior to training in the sport/activity itself, and continue to devote a good chunk of training energy to supplemental GPP at all times. In the old Soviet system, athletes were often required to do GPP for years before training in the actual sport. GPP usually is taken to include a variety of activities that promote general fitness attributes - strength, aerobic and anaerobic endurance, etc... Stuff like running, calisthenics, jumping rope, swimming, general resistance training with weights and bodyweight exercises, lower level recreational sport participation.

In my view, if everyone not already in good athletic shape devoted a year to GPP before starting Aikido, and an hour or two per week to GPP from then on, you would see injury problems drop to a tiny fraction of what you see now.

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Old 09-24-2003, 09:59 AM   #15
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I have the feeling that my current knee problems would not be as great if I had been devoting more time to general exercise outside the dojo. I think Kevin is spot on on this one...

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Old 09-24-2003, 10:37 AM   #16
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Just in case you missed it, here's some super ukemi from the le-parkour site:

http://www.le-parkour.com/cyril.mpeg

2.8MB file (sorry low-bandwidth people).

Description: backflip to backroll from the roof of a tower.

I must say, pretty impressive....

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Old 09-24-2003, 11:06 AM   #17
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Willy Lee (willy_lee) wrote:
Just in case you missed it, here's some super ukemi from the le-parkour site:

http://www.le-parkour.com/cyril.mpeg

2.8MB file (sorry low-bandwidth people).

Description: backflip to backroll from the roof of a tower.

I must say, pretty impressive....
Wow. That is pretty darned impressive.

However, I dare say that I think ukemi encompasses far more than just falling. In fact, I'd put the falling part of ukemi as being a minority fraction of the whole of what I would consider to be ukemi. As such, I'd probably classify the above clip as showing some pretty impressive falling skills rather than really good ukemi -- but that could just be me...

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Old 09-24-2003, 01:19 PM   #18
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Although this Parkour stuff looks intriguing, I'm wondering how much damage they are doing to their bodies. Those high falls in particular look like they must be pretty harsh on the knees, and possibly on the spine and ankles too. They don't seem to be suffering any acute injuries in the clips I've seen, but I'm thinking that the long term wear and tear is probably going to be crippling.
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Old 09-24-2003, 07:36 PM   #19
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As such, I'd probably classify the above clip as showing some pretty impressive falling skills rather than really good ukemi -- but that could just be me...
Jun, I agree with you -- just being lazy and common usage tends to equate the two.

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