Welcome to AikiWeb Aikido Information
AikiWeb: The Source for Aikido Information
AikiWeb's principal purpose is to serve the Internet community as a repository and dissemination point for aikido information.

Sections
home
aikido articles
columns

Discussions
forums
aikiblogs

Databases
dojo search
seminars
image gallery
supplies
links directory

Reviews
book reviews
video reviews
dvd reviews
equip. reviews

News
submit
archive

Miscellaneous
newsletter
rss feeds
polls
about

Follow us on



Home > AikiWeb Aikido Forums
Go Back   AikiWeb Aikido Forums > Techniques

Hello and thank you for visiting AikiWeb, the world's most active online Aikido community! This site is home to over 22,000 aikido practitioners from around the world and covers a wide range of aikido topics including techniques, philosophy, history, humor, beginner issues, the marketplace, and more.

If you wish to join in the discussions or use the other advanced features available, you will need to register first. Registration is absolutely free and takes only a few minutes to complete so sign up today!

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 09-14-2003, 10:27 AM   #1
actoman
Dojo: USA Martial Arts Center
Location: West Virginia
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 88
United_States
Offline
Ai symbol aikido versus other Martial Arts..

While I am new, it seems that most would agree that Aikido, in the hands of a very capable and highly trained aikidoka, could win every time because for the most part he is relaxed, and calm in the face of challenge, as well as not having to do any fancy techniques like kicks, etc.

I don't know but it seems the old saying that you are strongest at your most relaxed would really hold true.

Opinions?
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2003, 10:42 AM   #2
Greg Jennings
Dojo: S&G BJJ
Location: Springboro, OH
Join Date: Jul 2000
Posts: 1,125
United_States
Offline
It's not the art, it's the artist. There is no silver bullet art. Just sweat and sacrifice.

FWIW,

Greg Jennings
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2003, 10:54 AM   #3
Jim ashby
Dojo: Phoenix Coventry
Location: Coventry, England
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 303
Offline
This thread AGAIN!?!? This subject has been done to death again and again. Use the library function please.

Vir Obesus Stola Saeptus
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2003, 11:39 AM   #4
PhilJ
 
PhilJ's Avatar
Dojo: Aikido Bukou
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 240
Offline
Referring to the silver bullet, I read in some aikido book that the ultimate martial arts weapon is... a nuclear bomb. Then, it's big guys named "Bubba"...

What the heck was that book?

*Phil

Phillip Johnson
Enso Aikido Dojo, Burnsville, MN
An Aikido Bukou Dojo
http://www.aikidobukou.com
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2003, 02:04 PM   #5
jimbaker
Dojo: Aikido of Norfolk/ Aikido Society of Memphis
Location: Norfolk, VA
Join Date: Jun 2000
Posts: 158
Antarctica
Offline
In Re: Bubba

I'm afraid that would be me.

http://home.earthlink.net/~jimbaker6/aa/askjim.htm

For another FAQ:

http://home.earthlink.net/~jimbaker6/aa/faq.htm
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2003, 02:25 PM   #6
PhilJ
 
PhilJ's Avatar
Dojo: Aikido Bukou
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 240
Offline
EXCELLENT Jim, thanks! That's what I read... but I thought it was in a book. Were you published?

*Phil

Phillip Johnson
Enso Aikido Dojo, Burnsville, MN
An Aikido Bukou Dojo
http://www.aikidobukou.com
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2003, 03:09 PM   #7
Qatana
 
Qatana's Avatar
Dojo: Aikido of Petaluma, Petaluma,CA
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 834
Offline
darn i wish i coulda downloaded the video i got last week of Penguin Iriminage...

Q
http://www.aikidopetaluma.com/
www.knot-working.com

"It is not wise to be incautious when confronting a little smiling bald man"'- Rule #1
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2003, 03:51 PM   #8
Adrian Smith
 
Adrian Smith's Avatar
Location: Yokosuka
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 55
Offline
Quote:
Jo Adell (Qatana) wrote:
darn i wish i coulda downloaded the video i got last week of Penguin Iriminage...
The "penguins on the ice floe" one where one trips the other? It's been floating around the net for a few years, and unfortunately it's faked.

-drin
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2003, 05:39 PM   #9
jimbaker
Dojo: Aikido of Norfolk/ Aikido Society of Memphis
Location: Norfolk, VA
Join Date: Jun 2000
Posts: 158
Antarctica
Offline
Phil asked;

EXCELLENT Jim, thanks! That's what I read... but I thought it was in a book. Were you published?

It was in Carol Schifflett"s book, "Aikido, Exercises for Teaching and Training" The "Wendy Gunther, MD" quoted throughout is my lovely wife. A great sourcebook of good advice.

JIM
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2003, 08:17 PM   #10
PeterR
 
PeterR's Avatar
Dojo: Shodokan Honbu (Osaka)
Location: Himeji, Japan
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 3,319
Japan
Offline
And in a wonderful display of marketing savey Carol quoted a number of Aikido-L members all of who (the quoted ones) bought the book.

Peter Rehse Shodokan Aikido
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2003, 09:13 PM   #11
PhilJ
 
PhilJ's Avatar
Dojo: Aikido Bukou
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 240
Offline
Quote:
Jim Baker (jimbaker) wrote:
It was in Carol Schifflett"s book, "Aikido, Exercises for Teaching and Training" The "Wendy Gunther, MD" quoted throughout is my lovely wife. A great sourcebook of good advice.

JIM
Aha, I have this book, mystery solved.

*Phil

Phillip Johnson
Enso Aikido Dojo, Burnsville, MN
An Aikido Bukou Dojo
http://www.aikidobukou.com
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-16-2003, 01:38 PM   #12
jimbaker
Dojo: Aikido of Norfolk/ Aikido Society of Memphis
Location: Norfolk, VA
Join Date: Jun 2000
Posts: 158
Antarctica
Offline
Quote:
Peter Rehse (PeterR) wrote:
And in a wonderful display of marketing savey Carol quoted a number of Aikido-L members all of who (the quoted ones) bought the book.
Ah, but we got our copy as a gift from Carol. A classy lady.

As to the original question, any nine year old with a 9mm can beat any ninth Dan in any Art.

JIM
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-16-2003, 02:21 PM   #13
Ron Tisdale
Dojo: Doshinkan dojo in Roxborough, Pa
Location: Phila. Pa
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 4,614
United_States
Offline
Huh, sometimes all it takes is a five year old with a sling shot!


Ron Tisdale
-----------------------
"The higher a monkey climbs, the more you see of his behind."
St. Bonaventure (ca. 1221-1274)
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-16-2003, 02:28 PM   #14
shihonage
Join Date: Sep 2001
Posts: 890
United_States
Offline
Sometimes all it takes is a 3-year old with a 30-year old.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-2003, 12:20 AM   #15
Abasan
Dojo: Aiki Shoshinkan, Aiki Kenkyukai
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 813
Malaysia
Offline
Quote:
Adrian Smith wrote:
The "penguins on the ice floe" one where one trips the other? It's been floating around the net for a few years, and unfortunately it's faked.

-drin
It wasn't an iriminage, just a slap on the back. And its pretty funny, didn't look fake at all. I wouldve posted it, but its over 400kb. So aikiweb won't allow it. If you want, i can mail it to you.

Draw strength from stillness. Learn to act without acting. And never underestimate a samurai cat.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-2003, 04:23 PM   #16
Ari Bolden
 
Ari Bolden's Avatar
Dojo: Victoria Jujitsu Academy
Location: Victoria BC
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 67
Canada
Offline
This was taken from my message board on my website:

Ari,

I am a little concerned about what your ideas of realistic martial arts training are. In your video section you have several examples of traditional, non-effective styles versus modern techniques. However, contrary to that thought, you seem to be promoting Aikido!

Most modern-style practitioners would argue Aikido as one of the worst styles to train in for realistic self-defense or 'street fighting'. Aikido promo videos always showcase aikido techniques against a co-ordinated attacker and never real opponents. I would think that anyone who has seen NHB matches or anyone who has studied either grappling, throwing or striking would know that many (most??) aikido techniques are hardly realistic or effective against a real adversary. Where is aikido in UFC/PRIDE? I would go so far as to say that attempting aikido techniques in a real fight could quite possibly harm your chances of coming out on top! I look forward to your thoughts on this.

My reply:

You may be a bit confused on my training philosophy. Let me explain.

I am not ONLY promoting aikido, but daito ryu jujitsu, modern grappling, and brazilian jiu jitsu techniques. I am not sure where you got the impression "this is a pure aikido guy and he is promoting only stand up techniques against nhb fighters."

My first love is for aikido, that's true.

My classes are divided into self defense, traditional martial art instruction (aikido, daito ryu) which includes all the throws, joint locks, chokes et al, and submission grappling.

I am not promoting aikido for use in real life attacks per se (very hard to throw someone when you are on you back!) I use aikido as a tool to teach proper stance, kazushi (unbalancing) and for the pure enjoyment of it.

You have to remember that there are many aikido techniques that come from daito ryu (which is a grappling/striking art). It's the practicioner as much as the art that make the technique.

I only use those videos to promote Jiu-Jitsu and ground fighting and why it's important. I have the aikido videos on there to show the beauty of the technique.

I am as much a realist as I am a lover of traditional budo. I don't think there is a magic solution or art that handles everything sufficiently. That is why I cross train.

If we are talking about pure reality self defense, using what ever tools you have at your disposal is a great idea no? Reverse knee kicks, eye gouge, elbow to the temple, or better yet...run away. It's about survival afterall.

I hope I've cleared up a few things for you.

What do you think?

cheers

ARi

  Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2003, 10:29 AM   #17
bolaji olayinka
Location: lagos
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 4
Offline
it is quite clear that aikido is not only for fashion but for real. although i am new in aikido but the little i have seen through my research have proved this.

olayinka
  Reply With Quote

Please visit our sponsor:

AikiWeb Sponsored Links - Place your Aikido link here for only $10!



Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Why do some people hate Aikido? Guilty Spark General 611 01-16-2017 10:13 AM
Chinese Martial Arts and Aikido Doshu General 67 08-18-2009 04:19 PM
Highest Level Martial Arts and Aikido Mike Sigman General 240 08-12-2005 07:22 PM
Way of the Warrior on Discovery timcraig General 58 09-13-2003 01:18 PM
Using Aikido against other martial arts Kestrel Techniques 46 09-06-2001 01:04 AM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:46 PM.



vBulletin Copyright © 2000-2018 Jelsoft Enterprises Limited
----------
Copyright 1997-2018 AikiWeb and its Authors, All Rights Reserved.
----------
For questions and comments about this website:
Send E-mail
plainlaid-picaresque outchasing-protistan explicantia-altarage seaford-stellionate