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Old 06-19-2003, 07:35 PM   #1
PeterR
 
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Surprises

I pride myself on being able to tell pretty quickly if someone has Budo experience - boy was that tossed in my face last night.

One of my beginner Aikido students who I also work with is a shy, slightly build young man that, although enthusiastic, seems to have trouble with some of the waza and basic movements. With him I was in slow and gentle mode. He had told me he had done some Judo when he was 14 but then again lots of kids here do Judo around that time.

Last night we were all sent home early because of the typhoon so I invited a few of my Aikido students (ie. the ones the work in the same institute) to my home for supper and conversation. By arrangement Hanamura-san was to join me later for Judo practice - he had just bought his gi. So here I am telling him in public not to worry - I will be gentle.

The moment he grabbed me for Uchikome practice I knew I was in trouble. What was hitting me was a body far harder than I expected and not just that, it was fitting me really well. Then came randori. By this time I was not going to take it easy and my preconceptions were handed to me in spades.

Truely excellent practice, another of my students (an Amercian karate man) also came along for his first taste of Judo. With Hanamura-san randori was exactly like it was supposed to be. Win or loose not important - I would try things sometimes fail sometimes succeed, he would do the same. The American did not have a gi so we swapped ours around (initially he was just supposed to watch) and I had a look at Hannamura-san's sweat soaked body - I was looking at a different person, there was serious muscle there. I had totally underestimated his strength and skill - on the ground I was dog meat.

The two Judo sensei's (6th Dan, 5th Dan) were all over us and it turns out that some Judo experience was two years of constant and serious practice and occaisional dabbling since them. I guess its like riding a bike - once you know how you never forget. And yes after two years some get pretty good.

End of story, I was impressed, the American was impressed and we will all do Judo togeather. Oh yeah and Hanamura-san's Aikido training is going to be put to a higher level.

Peter Rehse Shodokan Aikido
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Old 06-19-2003, 09:35 PM   #2
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Hmm that's crazy lol. I guess it goes too show that making assumptions can be fatal, or midly suprising .
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Old 06-19-2003, 11:59 PM   #3
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never assume anything because of looks. i like that a large proprtion of aikido sensei are rather small and diminuitive or in the opposite direction large and with big bellies. out of a hakama they would not take a second notice on the street as being deadly......

but i think there are indications if you look closer? such as lowered hips and perhaps some degree of quiet confidence.

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Old 06-20-2003, 07:13 AM   #4
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Although you have to be careful, and I have had my share of suprises, I always like to make a sport on figuring out what kind of previous training a new student has had by visual and tactile observation.

It blows new students away when I can go up to them an ask so how long did you studied X, Y or Z? They look at me like I just did a Jedi mind trick, instead of years of dedicated practice and love of all budo not just Aikido.
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Old 06-20-2003, 08:33 AM   #5
Ron Tisdale
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One of the instructors and senior students at a dojo I train at sometimes is rather short and stout. I can't imagine someone who hasn't trained under or with him taking him seriously in a conflict. Big mistake. Huge. This guy was showing me kokyu ho dosa against a push one time. Literally tossed me head over heels about 6 feet away from him, without moving his body an inch. Pure relaxed power. I already knew he was excellent at aikido at the time...but I still had not the slightest clue...probably still don't.

Hey Peter, at least he didn't embarrass you with a nice hip throw in the middle of aikido keiko...

Ron

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