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Old 08-25-2016, 01:31 AM   #1
turbonis
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At what belt did your sensei teach you how to.

advanced ukemi, such as doshu fall, high fall, drop. etc.
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Old 08-25-2016, 02:21 AM   #2
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Re: At what belt did your sensei teach you how to.

What is a "doshu fall"? In Sweden there is a general rule that when receiving 3 kyu (and being able to wear the hakama) a practitioner should normally be able to do breakfalls
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Old 08-25-2016, 11:25 AM   #3
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Re: At what belt did your sensei teach you how to.

I had to learn the various Ukemi at the same time as the techniques. No learning koshinage if you can't fall out of koshinage.
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Old 08-25-2016, 05:14 PM   #4
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Re: At what belt did your sensei teach you how to.

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What is a "doshu fall"?
The end result when Doshu throws you?
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Old 08-28-2016, 04:45 AM   #5
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Re: At what belt did your sensei teach you how to.

what do you call that breakfall in your dojos?
at 0.10seconds we call that breakfall, doshu fall in our dojo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiNEkhIZCo0
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Old 08-28-2016, 03:16 PM   #6
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Re: At what belt did your sensei teach you how to.

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what do you call that breakfall in your dojos?
at 0.10seconds we call that breakfall, doshu fall in our dojo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiNEkhIZCo0
Mostly it's what your sensei named it. Me too and probably most everyone here on this forum never heard of the Doshu fall either.

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Old 08-29-2016, 12:51 AM   #7
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Re: At what belt did your sensei teach you how to.

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what do you call that breakfall in your dojos?
It is quite common to call it "limp(i.e.dead) leaf" over here.
Ushiro otoshi - like Donovan Waite names it - is the name of a certain technique here.

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Old 08-30-2016, 04:26 AM   #8
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Me too and probably most everyone here on this forum never heard of the Doshu fall either.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjgu0GmWi5Y
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Old 08-30-2016, 09:22 AM   #9
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Re: At what belt did your sensei teach you how to.

I think we know what is being referenced here, even though ("gasp") we're all calling it something different or not even naming it.

Still for me the same answer. Receiving technique was taught at the same time as doing the technique all the way through, beyond a couple of very early classes of rolling without any stimuluii. I don't recall being taught this at all; just braced my neck and did a flat back fall in a high momentum moment.
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Old 08-30-2016, 10:57 AM   #10
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Re: At what belt did your sensei teach you how to.

Among other things, I've heard it called "Relax and go Splat"...
However, ukemi works for me.
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Old 09-04-2016, 12:35 PM   #11
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I was taught in the beginning the different ways of landing on the ground as part of our warm ups prior to practice. Never heard names for them.

In practice Uke was always lead into the fall by Nage and used what landing that was apparent whether it was high, low, a straight drop, a projection into a roll or flying through air.

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Old 09-04-2016, 09:44 PM   #12
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Re: At what belt did your sensei teach you how to.

the sad part here is that we are only using taekwondo rubber mats. which makes it more difficult to practice these.
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Old 09-05-2016, 09:21 AM   #13
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Re: At what belt did your sensei teach you how to.

I guess invest in a crash mat and some thicker mats, or have people stick to falls that are less fun to watch but are more appropriate for every surface.
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