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Old 06-03-2016, 09:25 AM   #1
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Will taking Tai Chi hurt my Aikido?

I’ve been taking Aikido for the last year and a half. I had previously practiced other martial arts like Karate, Kendo, Iaido, American Boxing, etc, but that was 10 years ago. I'm just getting back into MA and I'm loving Aikido.

I’m trying to get my wife to exercise more. I’d love to take her to aikido, but I think the falls would be a bit much for her since she has a medical condition. She has done yoga in the past, however she is showing an interest in Tai Chi. I was thinking I’d do it with her for you know that positive motivation. I’m just worried about it muddling what I’ve already learned in Aikido thought I hope that maybe it will compliment it.

Thoughts?
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Old 06-03-2016, 09:52 AM   #2
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Re: Will taking Tai Chi hurt my Aikido?

Phil,

I don't think so. I began studying Qi Gong a few years back to inform my aikido. That was part of the "internal power" process that is such a debate. I think it was helpful to my aikido and I still practice it to relax. Tai Chi is a little different, they are pretty similar so I think you will have the same outcome. Of course, it is all up to you whether you muddle up your aikido training or complement it. YMMV.

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Old 06-03-2016, 11:57 AM   #3
Larry Feldman
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Re: Will taking Tai Chi hurt my Aikido?

My instructor teaches both and has for over 35+ years. He not only insists they are complementary, but will often show how an Aikido technique is done the same way in Tai Chi, and vice versa....He teaches Yang style for what it is worth.

I never studied Tai Chi with him, Aikido kept me busy enough. Now wishing I had spent some time on Tai Chi as well....
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Old 06-03-2016, 12:57 PM   #4
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Re: Will taking Tai Chi hurt my Aikido?

Ok cool. Thanks for the input guys. I was kind of hoping they might have some similarities.
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Old 06-03-2016, 02:29 PM   #5
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Re: Will taking Tai Chi hurt my Aikido?

Totally agree with the others: Chinese internal arts are a good complement to aikido.

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Old 06-03-2016, 09:27 PM   #6
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Re: Will taking Tai Chi hurt my Aikido?

I do practice Tai Chi, and started around the time I started Aikido. I did study three styles of Tai Chi - Chen, Yang (most), and Wu/Hao. They are all very different. Another Wu style and multiple Chen styles, and a Sun style are very different again. My local teacher does teach a form of Chen as well as Aikido.

Aikido as I learned it initially had little in the way of solo practice. As a shift worker, I missed classes or couldn't get to class in time. I would be traveling, or without a Gi and mats. Tai chi was always possible, and tai chi was great for rehab from aikido injuries. Push hands, Da Lu, San Shou, and Henkawaza and kaeshiwaza are very closely related. Tai chi structure, if you have a good teacher, will help inform Aikido structure. Aikido informed my tai chi practice as many tai chi students never actually get into applications or feedback and aikido does that often. Beginning practice will likely look like a whole new animal.

The two are different enough to give me many headaches but much food for thought over the years. It will likely change what you do, and I don't always keep the two apart in my mind. Strict teachers of mine (not the best, just the most vocal) on either side of the fence have complained about the result over the years. I am happy.
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Old 06-08-2016, 03:11 PM   #7
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Re: Will taking Tai Chi hurt my Aikido?

Ikkyo Undo is Peng jing. Roll back and press(movements in T'ai Chi) are all over Aikido, found in alot of places in the art of Aikido . Tenchi Nage=White Crane spreads it's wings.. Very closely related. Like two peas in a pod..However, good instruction is needed in both arts to bring out the similarities.
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Old 06-09-2016, 01:26 PM   #8
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Re: Will taking Tai Chi hurt my Aikido?

If you take real Tai Chi Chuan from a good teacher, it will actually improve your Aikido—anywhere from some to dramatically. Good Tai Chi students tend to have better grounding and fluidness than most Aikido students.

And not just doing the form, but also push hands ( tuishou ) and Chin Na ( joint locks).

Most of Aikido really comes from Chinese origins anyway. And if you get into the IS/IP aspects, it's almost all Chinese and rooted in Taoist principles.

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Old 06-13-2016, 11:31 AM   #9
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don't do it! if you do, then eventually you want to wear silk pajamas and start to do aikido in slow motion, in the park which won't make aikido combative (see other threads). Then you would want to call aikido techniques with sensible names like "old guy playing the flute", 'extra whip with double shot latte", "guy brushing his beard with metal wire brush", "brushing the horse mane and get kick in gonads", and so on and so forth. This wouldn't do for aikido since we already named techniques with logical names like first technique, second technique and so on.

my advice is don't do it!

now, where is my silk pajamas, since i heard my lady mentioned something about double whip. sounded painful. since aikido has taught me to enjoy pain, i might like this.

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Old 06-27-2016, 10:35 AM   #10
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Re: Will taking Tai Chi hurt my Aikido?

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don't do it! if you do, then eventually you want to wear silk pajamas and start to do aikido in slow motion, in the park which won't make aikido combative (see other threads). Then you would want to call aikido techniques with sensible names like "old guy playing the flute", 'extra whip with double shot latte", "guy brushing his beard with metal wire brush", "brushing the horse mane and get kick in gonads", and so on and so forth. This wouldn't do for aikido since we already named techniques with logical names like first technique, second technique and so on.

my advice is don't do it!

now, where is my silk pajamas, since i heard my lady mentioned something about double whip. sounded painful. since aikido has taught me to enjoy pain, i might like this.
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Old 06-28-2016, 07:57 AM   #11
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Aside from the influence on your aikido...if the purpose of tai chi is to get your wife doing it, you may find that your presence is an inhibitor rather than an encouragement. I don't know either of you, but it does work out that way frequently that someone new to an activity wants to do so anonymously, so to speak, with strangers rather than with people they know. So, trying to get your wife to exercise more comes from a place of caring, obviously, but there are still so many ways that that kind of encouragement can backfire. She may simply need her own place and her own thing that you're not a part of.
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Old 07-19-2016, 04:50 AM   #12
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Re: Will taking Tai Chi hurt my Aikido?

I did Taichi Chen Style. It did affect my Aikido, my technique and my footwork got lighter. I'm not sure if I am throwing stronger, however I can confirm that I moved lighter especially on Bukiwaza. If you ask me if I would recommend it to help your Aikido, I'm not sure. It may help your martial arts, however I can't guarantee it will improve your Aikido.

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