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Old 11-07-2002, 07:58 PM   #26
Abasan
Dojo: Aiki Shoshinkan, Aiki Kenkyukai
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I injured my right wrist for trying to absorb too much nikyo. All this because someone told me that you have to train until you can take nikyo without pain if you want to reach black belt. Now it hurts if i bend it backwards, so no bridging for me. Sankyo hurts, shihonage hurts... even slapping the floor hurts. Doctor friend told me that this type of injury will heal in time (whew!) so i'm using a wrist brace to help its course since I don't want to leave training. Maybe its all these typing I do... i heard bout this thing called repetitive stress injury.

Using knee braces now so that all those creaks and such won't develop into bad joints. Most of the time, I think knee injury here stems from bad ukemi, especially when doing mai ukemi and landing with the front foot at an angle instead of facing dead center. Hitting the sides of the knees when breakfalling doesn't help either.

Sprained my neck for being a complacent uke during jo practice. Never take things for granted. I was falling down, and not holding on to nage's jo, and nage helpfully pulled back his jo on my face, causing me to turn away and lend promptly on my head instead of having it tucked in.

Draw strength from stillness. Learn to act without acting. And never underestimate a samurai cat.
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Old 11-07-2002, 11:32 PM   #27
Kevin Wilbanks
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AB,

I wouldn't let any of this worry you too much, unless you train at Tim Griffith's dojo, in which the Sensei is cutting himself with a sword, and letting students impale one another with live daggers... I've never heard of this kind of recklessness in any Aikido dojos within the experience of anyone I've known.

It seems to me the common thread in the most horrific of these stories is foolishness and irresponsibility. If you're a sensible person who will proceed with a little caution, I don't think Aikido will prove prohibitively dangerous. If you're ever involved in a situation that seems out of hand, you can always bow, say 'thank you', and sit it out or go home.
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Old 11-08-2002, 04:43 AM   #28
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My own thoughts reading through this thread are very similar to Ted's. My goodness! Some you have been seriously injured!

Let me echo Kevin's great advice:
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If you're a sensible person who will proceed with a little caution, I don't think Aikido will prove prohibitively dangerous. If you're ever involved in a situation that seems out of hand, you can always bow, say 'thank you', and sit it out or go home.
Heal up and train safely all,

Paul
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Old 11-08-2002, 06:43 AM   #29
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My short list:

Nose broken in 3 locations by uke's heel during randori. My face looked like a Cubist painting. Off the mat 3 weeks, returned a bit earlier than wise to take my second kyu test.

Big toe fractured when uke dropped to his knees when confronted with my superior ki. (well, maybe not). Lots of tape, no time off.

Other than that, nothing more than the usual tendonitis issues in various upper extremity locations.

Avery

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Old 11-08-2002, 07:22 AM   #30
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20 years training, only one serious injury (knock wood) = torn ACL, because I was being a jerk and was pissed off and threw someone too hard and got my foot stuck on the mat (taught me a lesson!).

Otherwise, numerous toe injuries with one broken toe during my second year of training (brought someone down on my heel when I had my toes tucked under me, ouch). Slight tear in my rotator cuff (don't know how it happened), and really bad shoulders (way too tight, causing injuries-can't seem to loosen them). Other than that, many times I've gotten a heel in my shin during a seminar due to too crowded a mat.

Hope I don't get any more serious injuries, getting too old for quick recoveries!
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Old 11-08-2002, 10:54 AM   #31
MattRice
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damn dude, torn mouth? That's a new one for me...yoiks.
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Old 11-10-2002, 03:03 PM   #32
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Talking

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Matt Rice (MattRice) wrote:
damn dude, torn mouth? That's a new one for me...yoiks.
Tell me about it, I still can't do our 4th awase without some trepidation, But this was definatly a case of someones Ego out doing their ability, fortunately this guy only trains with us occassionaly now, He cost us a few students when our Dojo was starting out.

It has become a sort of joke in the Dojo during Ken Awase to scratch the corner of your mouth when doing 4th Awase with me.
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Old 11-12-2002, 09:39 AM   #33
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I've been injured by the mat... the mounting decided it'd let my toe get caught under it while I was walking along the edge.. ouch.. I also tend to get cut by a nail and for instance, last week, I bled on my gi and the gi of my uki, before I realized I was even bleeding. No big deal, but it was kinda scary when he said he knew just how to remove blood stains.
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Old 11-21-2002, 07:23 PM   #34
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I also nearly had my thumb ripped off - as uke in a grab type attack, thumb caught in nage's gi, nage threw me anyway. Took about six months to be able to apply any strength again. It was a good learning experience, I finally learnt to use centre for kotegeish instead of using the stength in my hands.

I have a dodgy joint in my neck from way back when I started training and Sesnei demonstrated how easy it is (for him at least) to pick me up and throw me in the air. Up head first, down head first. Ouch. It falres up whenever I'm too jerky in my reactions.

Apart from that bruises, nail-cuts etc. Nothing too serious.
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Old 11-21-2002, 11:50 PM   #35
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Straight Face injuries in aikido

in the 4+ years that i've been practising, i've had a twisted ankle, sprained thumb and torn shoulder muscle. Of course, the thumb and ankle were from telemarking (skiing); only the shoulder was from aikido -- a vigorous randori. Of course, there's the odd bruise, broken toe-nail, and other minor ouchie, but I've probably been scraped up more during rock climbing.
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Old 11-22-2002, 01:08 AM   #36
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like others, lots of fingernail scratches. i have found that fingernails dont have to be particularly long to give a good cut.

a bunch of split / fat lips, one black eye (just a little black )

one scraped and bloody chin from sensei's stiff gi and good iriminage.

both thumbs have skiier's thumb from my first week of aikido doing static ushiro grabbing attacks.

both wrists have been sprained from kotegaeshi / nikkyo / shihonage.

both big toes have been crunched really badly. one on the side of the mat in queens and once from it rolling under my foot towards the sole. that one hurt a lot and triggered an asthma attack.

a bunch of my joints crack now, usually in places where i've been hurt at one point or another. i think the ligament get stretched and starts cracking later...is that how that really works?

most of the little ones (stubbed toes, bruises-to-be, etc.) are pretty easy to ignore. it's not like they're going to do any real damage. some people pay attention to every little bump - WIMPS!

finally, my last one of note is - -

someone slapped out of their breakfall by slapping my nuts.

that was actually the moment i realized how to ignore the pain.


and i've just been doing aikido for 6 weeks!!
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nah, im just playing with you.

btw, Yamada Sensei's seminar tonite in brooklyn was awesome.


peace

evan

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Old 11-22-2002, 01:25 AM   #37
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like others, lots of fingernail scratches. i have found that fingernails dont have to be particularly long to give a good cut.

a bunch of split / fat lips, one black eye (just a little black )

one scraped and bloddy chin from sensei's stiff gi and good iriminage.

both thumbs have skiier's thumb from my first week of aikido doing static ushiro grabbing attacks.

both wrists have been sprained from kotegaeshi / nikkyo / shihonage.

both big toes have been crunched really badly. one on the side of the mat in queens and once from it rolling under my foot towards the sole. that one hurt a lot and triggered an asthma attack. 8-0

a bunch of my joints crack now, usually in places where i've been hurt at one point or another. i think the ligament get stretched and starts cracking later...is that how that really works?

most of the little ones (stubbed toes, bruises-to-be, etc.) are pretty easy to ignore. it's not like they're going to do any real damage. some people pay attention to every little bump - WIMPS!

finally, my last one of note is - -

someone slapped out of their breakfall by slapping my nuts.

that was actually the moment i realized how to ignore the pain.

peace

evan
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Old 11-22-2002, 08:35 AM   #38
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Quote:
Sigurd Rage (gasman) wrote:
my sensei always says there are less registered injuries in aikido than there is in golf (!)
you might find this list interesting
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Old 11-22-2002, 08:45 AM   #39
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Sometimes when doing breakfalls, my legs does a nutcracker technique on my... thingy.

Also, my wrists make a poping sound when i strech in nikkyo and sankyo. They didn't do that when I started. Is it proof of progress?

/Patrik
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