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Old 04-16-2015, 07:19 PM   #1
finn76
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Tanto Dori

I found a very interesting tanto dori video on line. It looks very good to me; what are your thoughts?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Bv4MuYo4rw
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Old 04-16-2015, 07:36 PM   #2
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Re: Tanto Dori

Nice stuff, going to have to replay that repetitively to break it down.
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Old 04-16-2015, 11:55 PM   #3
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Re: Tanto Dori

All sorts of things work if the person with the knife attacks once and then stands there waiting for the technique. I saw little or no effort to control the knife on the entry.

Katherine
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Old 04-17-2015, 08:29 AM   #4
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Re: Tanto Dori

Tanto dori is something I find especially sobering on the mat. Our sensei will sometimes have us practice with a partner who is instructed to make a second or third attack if we don't pick up the technique on the first stab or slice. When someone is intent on cutting you, it's several times harder than when uke gives a slight hesitation after the initial attack (as in this video), providing nage with a clear opening. I've "died" plenty of times trying to pick up a technique, because the margins with bladed weapons are so small and uke (if they have really good intention in the attack) can make such small adjustments in order to be in a good position to restrike. Unlike open hand, uke does not need to have especially good balance/especially good leverage in order to land an effective strike--uke with a sharp knife can cut sensitive areas while offbalance, while falling, while being unable to drive with their hips, if you leave any small hole in the kata. That said, even I can tell that the kata are incredibly well-thought-out--but difficult to execute at speed and even very slight errors can be "fatal." Thank goodness it's only polished wood. If confronted with an actual blade, I'd happily surrender my wallet rather than attempt a disarm--I know enough to know what I don't know.
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Old 04-17-2015, 09:26 AM   #5
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Re: Tanto Dori

Most of the waza contain openings for the attacker, even if you ignore the tanto. The music is nice.

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Old 04-17-2015, 09:36 AM   #6
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Why not just enter and do the technique, rather than enter, pause, then throw?
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Old 04-17-2015, 10:52 AM   #7
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Re: Tanto Dori

I see a lot of effort to fully enumerate the different techniques to be applied, at the expanse of blade control and an inordinate amount of turning ones back to the blade. I personally believe tanto work should always be practiced with continuous attacks and should stress weapon control over the perfection of the technique. But hey I just want to live.
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Old 04-18-2015, 06:26 AM   #8
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Re: Tanto Dori

I think its important to remember when training in tanto-dori that it can never match the reality of a knife fight.
Like any waza it is simply a way of body conditioning which will help in any combat situation. My own opinion is that in any knife fight you should expect to be cut (same goes for an attack with glass, bottle etc) and any response is much more effective if you accept that fact

P.S. This is a nice dmo in my opinion with the emphasis on body movement rather than "fighting" techniques.
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Old 04-18-2015, 03:43 PM   #9
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Re: Tanto Dori

Not that i want a bunch of chalk on my good dogi, but some dojo will use colored chalk on the edge of the training knife to determine if cuts occur during a technique.
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Old 04-18-2015, 03:58 PM   #10
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Re: Tanto Dori

I thought this was a pretty good video, showing various techniques that, when polished and perfected, might work well in defense of a knife attack. I did not interpret the video as a focused how-to knife defense training video, but rather an introduction which showed a variety of techniques that could work. Some were better than others, but I see this as just an introduction and not an end all - be all to tanto dori. Overall, a very nice video.

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