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Old 03-07-2015, 03:49 PM   #26
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If you have students who are generating sharps on a regular basis -- diabetics testing blood sugar, for instance -- getting a sharps disposal container would be a polite safety measure for whoever empties your trash.

Otherwise, meh. What do you do with soiled bandaids and such at home? If your dojo is generating enough volume to have real biological waste disposal concerns, you might need to re-examine your teaching protocols...

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Students should have no need to generate sharps at the dojo in any quantity.
You are also right there should be no need for a dojo to routinely put things on level of biowaste hazard.

FWIW, our protocol for our clients who inject is I have them use an empty bleach container - they are incredibly puncture resistant - and when it is full I tape it shut with red tape and mark it and bring it to our local dump - er, county waste management facility - for appropriate disposal. I have a feeling some simply seal the bleach containers, bag em and throw them away.

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Old 03-07-2015, 04:17 PM   #27
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http://www.cdc.gov/hicpac/pdf/guidel...n_Nov_2008.pdf

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Old 03-09-2015, 02:26 PM   #28
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Re: Blood on the mat

Personally, I like to lick the blood up, but I'm a berserker and we berserk that way.

Nice to see the list of more modern good advice though.

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Old 03-09-2015, 04:27 PM   #29
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Personally, I like to lick the blood up, but I'm a berserker and we berserk that way. .
If we disembowel 'em we can make blood sausage!

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Old 03-15-2015, 11:54 AM   #30
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IMO open wound of any size should be covered, as not only is it not a good thing for the person to train with an open wound of whatever size, it may carry health hazards for others. That, and make a hard-to-clean mess of the mat/tatami and/or workout wear, such as yawagi/shitagi (jacket/pant).

If someone gets a bad injury, open wound with bleeding (a guy in my class had a freakish fall once, got himself twisted up while the partner accidentally stepped on a foot caused a tib-fib fracture just above his ankle, open wound with bleeding), you cover it immediately witht he cleanest cloth you have to hand, then get assistance at the level you need (we called the ambulance as there was no way he was going to get into a car, and he definitely needed surgery).

FOr the smaller stuff, a little bandage with tape is fine, again IMO. I'm not squeamish about scabbed over sites, but they do have an irritating tendency to open up, so you have to watch them. If there's a lot of them, say someone was riding a bike and fell forward and tore up their palms but it's healing... that's a judgment call both for player and instructor - keep the wounds closed. If they don't stay closed, see above for bandaging to continue practice.

I don't "think" that there is a risk of transmitting infection through a closed/scabbed site, but I might be wrong on that.

I find it interesting that the kanji character for kuzushi illustrates a mountain falling on a house.
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Old 03-15-2015, 03:42 PM   #31
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I don't "think" that there is a risk of transmitting infection through a closed/scabbed site, but I might be wrong on that.
The risk is if the scab tears or comes off.
I also take a hard look at rashes to make sure there are no blisters that might open or weeping areas. Once as a very very junior member of a dojo pulled rank as a nurse to politely tell somebody to get those lesions covered before bowing in.

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