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Old 11-12-2002, 08:51 AM   #1
Location: Connecticut
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 37
Ever feel kinda guilty..?

I'm going to miss tonight's class because of health issues.. (Interrupting practice to goto the bathroom every 8 minutes can only be a good way to practice entry/exit bowing to O'Sensei), and on Thursday's class I'll have a large work related meeting/dinner. So I guess I kinda feel crappy for not getting to train this week..

I suppose I could take the time to work on some research into Ki development, or do what I find myself doing quite often.. practicing in my mind, remembering tecniques, etc.

Maybe I fear commentary from the Dojo about missing time? I doubt that, but I think I fear negative commentary from myself, *to* myself, because I am a big believer in the respect gained with constant (read: not "always" but at the same time/frequency) training and excercise..

Anybody else ever have thoughts along the same line?
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Old 11-12-2002, 08:56 AM   #2
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Dojo: Alnwick aikido club (UKAU)
Location: Newcastle, England
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The only time I have felt a little guilty over missing class is when the class can only have a limited amount of pupils and there is a waiting list to get into it (our dan grade class).

Sensei, Thankfully, kept my spot open for me.

Other than that, my not training has no effect on other people. it is my time and my money and it would be silly to train and increase the risk of injury.

Although, I do often go along and watch if I have a non contagious illness and wont disrupt the class.

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Old 11-12-2002, 09:00 AM   #3
Location: Connecticut
Join Date: Oct 2002
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I agree with you 100%. I certainly would not train if it increased the risk of injury, that seems somewhat universally dumb.. I, however, didn't think of going and watching if the illness was non contagious..

I think internal strife caused me to gain a feeling of guilt, as well.. I don't know. The mind is funny like that, at least mine is.
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Old 11-12-2002, 10:22 AM   #4
mike lee
Location: Taipei, Taiwan
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 646

Just keep the teacher informed about your condition. It's important that he's fully aware of your situation.

Every good teacher realizes that health and safety are the top priorities. People need good health to train properly.

If he's a good teacher, he'll be understanding and you'll be guilt free!

Just do your best that's all that can be expected of any person.

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Old 11-12-2002, 01:52 PM   #5
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Location: Miami
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Don't feel guilty. It is better that you regain your health to train another day than to cause serious injury and then not be able to train for an extended time. As a courtesy infor your sensei of your status.

In sincere Aiki spirit

Juan Alberto
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Old 11-12-2002, 01:56 PM   #6
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Feel guilty. Otherwise you will continue to find excuse after excuse. Guilt is good. Bring your cold with you to the dojo. Now get your fingers out of your mouth and get training!

Seriously, now, I am sure anyone understands an occasional absence, if they don't, f-k em'. But if occasional becomes regular...then its time to kick one's self in the proverbial behind...
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Old 11-12-2002, 03:02 PM   #7
Ta Kung
Join Date: Apr 2001
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I felt guilt when I missed class because of a hang-over... I've only missed 3 classes this year, and this one was not for a good reason (allthough the party was cool). Sensei just laughed at me and said "todays youths are such poor drinkers".
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Old 11-13-2002, 07:31 AM   #8
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IMHO, there are two kinds of guilt. The first comes when you really know you did something wrongs, its a conscience that reminds us that we already know the right thing to do. The second is the guilt trips we get from other people and its more social control to make sure they get what they want.

I don't recommend that people train when they are too fatigued, injured, or sick. In those conditions it is too easy to get hurt worse, or hurt others. These are explanations, not excuses. It would seem we should feel guilty for jepordizing our training partners for some ego centered training ethic.

Get healthy and get back to training.

Until again,


Lynn Seiser PhD
Yondan Aikido & FMA/JKD
We do not rise to the level of our expectations, but fall to the level of our training. Train well. KWATZ!
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Old 11-13-2002, 08:18 AM   #9
Bruce Baker
Dojo: LBI Aikikai/LBI ,NJ
Location: Barnegaat, NJ
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You know when people kid you not being in practice, it is because they care.

On every level of emotion, you only say something if you care about that subject.

In a way, it is the connection to the absolute love of the universe O'Sensei use to talk about, because we only involve ourselves, good or bad, with things we care about.

Those things we do not care about ... we ignore, or have nothing to say about them.

So ... accept the love of "where have you been?" But don't say,"I love you" to wrong person, might get you thumped.

I know what you mean though, about missing class, and missing the physical practice.

Don't worry, it will go away, in fifty or sixty years.
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Old 11-13-2002, 10:57 AM   #10
Location: Connecticut
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Thanks for such great replies, everybody. Bruce, I suppose I've got a while to go if it's going to take fifty or sixty years.. And with today's medicine, that might be eighty or ninety, huh?

When I *do* feel guilty, it's not necessarily because I feel bad for not taking part in the class itself, I think that no matter how sick I am (well.. if I'm not concious, that's different.) I feel the guild starting because I *fear* that I will end up doing what DrGazebo mentioned. So I guess I'm kicking myself in the butt early so I don't have to kick as hard later.
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Old 11-14-2002, 08:18 AM   #11
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Dojo: Warrington Seishin Kai
Location: Warrington, England
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i really do, i feel like i've let down my sensei and also myself, because i feel my dedication is slipping. plus i might miss something really kewl.

I understand that with a heavily preggers wife and soon to be with child it could be interesting, but i still intent to go to as many classes as is possible, because i want to keep up the commitment.

so erm...yeah i feel guilty.


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