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Old 07-31-2014, 08:55 PM   #1
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Hi, my dojo doesn't have weapons training. I intend to go to weapons seminar training if it's available (but very scarce, maybe once a year). I don't know where to start. Can someone tell me the basics? I have a jo, bokken, and tanto.

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Old 07-31-2014, 10:46 PM   #2
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Hi, my dojo doesn't have weapons training. I intend to go to weapons seminar training if it's available (but very scarce, maybe once a year). I don't know where to start. Can someone tell me the basics? I have a jo, bokken, and tanto.

Cheers
No, not really. You have to be taught it. Someone can try to explain to you a basic cut, thrust renzoku, but variables like grip, timing, position are all far too complicated to explain here. The only realistic way to do it distance-learining style would be to observe specific techniques someone gives you, then video yourself doing them, and send them back to that person for correction. Very tedious. This is particularly true if you have no base knowledge of weapons training. It sucks, but not much you can do if no one is near to teach you.

When you go to your weapons seminar, make sure you get the basic grips and positions correct, video record and take corresponding notes. The more you learn about weapons work, the more complex and difficult it gets. Awesome training though, hopefully you get a full-time knowledgeable instructor.

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Old 08-01-2014, 12:14 PM   #3
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Re: Weapons training

If I were you and I didn't have integrated weapon training in your Aikido organization, I'd either find a new Aikido organization that does, or I would find myself a decent Iaido dojo for cross-training.

Aikido weapons don't make much sense as a study on their own, and if they aren't already a part of your tradition, that is basically how you would be studying them.
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Old 08-01-2014, 12:47 PM   #4
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Hi, my dojo doesn't have weapons training. I intend to go to weapons seminar training if it's available (but very scarce, maybe once a year). I don't know where to start. Can someone tell me the basics? I have a jo, bokken, and tanto.

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Konstantinus

Study some good vids [Sato Sensei /Chiba Sensei ]on Youtube.Get a mate ,sStudy basic movement

and just do it.Its not rocket science .Nopoint in hanging arouind waiting for some guy to show you the ropes .Pity Indonsiea is a bit too far away for me .Cheers, Joe

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Old 08-01-2014, 01:49 PM   #5
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Hi, my dojo doesn't have weapons training. I intend to go to weapons seminar training if it's available (but very scarce, maybe once a year). I don't know where to start. Can someone tell me the basics? I have a jo, bokken, and tanto.

Cheers
i thought Indonesia has martial arts that are good with sticks and knives. i would go with those over aikido weapons any day.

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Old 08-01-2014, 04:32 PM   #6
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i thought Indonesia has martial arts that are good with sticks and knives. i would go with those over aikido weapons any day.
I was going to suggest this as well. I tend to believe that the "best" art is usually going to be the one with the best teacher. In-person instruction from a local master is going to beat anything you can find on video.

Katherine
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Old 08-04-2014, 07:13 AM   #7
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Silat is a study all by itself. I would not go to a guru expecting to cherry-pick weapons study from silat to augment my aikido practice. Give the art the respect it deserves.
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Old 08-04-2014, 04:10 PM   #8
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Go to Youtube and search eHow Aikido Weapons training.

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Old 08-04-2014, 06:28 PM   #9
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Go to Youtube and search eHow Aikido Weapons training.

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Dear David,
Your advice is fine.Just one snag quite frankly the Weapons vids on Youtube range from the sublime to the ridiculous.Since the writer of this blog appears to be a novice how can he discern that which is good and that which is dross?Some recent weapons work posted on this forums imo left a bit to be desired.Ideally the student should have a teacher,however that is not to say one cannot learn by watchng vids .Its just so much more more difficult.
Cheers, Joe.
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Old 08-04-2014, 07:25 PM   #10
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Re: Weapons training

Personally, many years ago I just decided that, since Murphy's Law seems to affect (effect?) me sort of all the time it feels like, that since I couldn't misplace my hands & feet, but it was certain that the one time in my life when I'd be the target of a bad actor, I'd have my [insert weapon here] in my training bag, in the car, at home, or across the room, whatever. So, I intentionally decided to not train with weapons so as to have my body not unconsciously hesitating that instant when it might count.

Rather, get the hands up and get the hell out of the way, eh!

I find it interesting that the kanji character for kuzushi illustrates a mountain falling on a house.
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Old 08-05-2014, 07:42 AM   #11
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When I first started studying weapons (before my aikido days), my sensei was careful to tell all new students that the idea of studying archaic weapons for self-defense was preposterous. If you are looking for self-defense, you should look elsewhere, and stop trying to justify your weapons study based on its self-defense value.
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