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Old 09-03-2009, 08:52 AM   #51
j0nharris
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Re: I sense something.. a presence I've not felt since...

It's usually the guy who says, "Here, grab my wrist..."

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Old 09-03-2009, 01:09 PM   #52
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Re: I sense something.. a presence I've not felt since...

I can only pick up martial arts "losers", or really clumsy people

The other day at free traiing there were two iaido blokes training on the wooden floor part of the hall, one of 'em had a massive scar all the way around the side of his face going across the top of his head to the other side of this face. I figured he was clumsy... sure enough, his iaito went flying a few times <gulp> and he tripped and fell over his hakama and went down at least once. Then there was the issue of a pink dogi top.... So on entering the hall after water breaks was very careful not to get skewered.

Oh, and spotting bullshit in non-MA people (business, work) is another fun skill, sad though it may be that this is necessary.

MA is fun!

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Old 11-12-2012, 03:51 AM   #53
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There's a book with a nice quote - I think it is Forest Morgan's "Living the Martial Way", but it may not be.

The author talks about going into bars and getting into fights all the time. Then realises that he goes in and sizes up all those present subconsciously, thinking "I could take him, him, ....".

Things get more peaceful when he goes in to bars with the attitude "everyone in here is safer because I am here..."

Then of course there are all the stories of zen masters playing with tigers etc as opposed to fighting them...
That's pretty cool. Is that the correct book?
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Old 11-16-2012, 10:49 AM   #54
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That's pretty cool. Is that the correct book?
Yes, If anyone who is a martial artist or wants to be a martial artist hasn't read this book, you should eagerly hunt it down. It discusses being a martial art, regardless of the art. It was the first book I ever read that made me ashamed I didn't train harder.
I've grown up incredibly since first reading this book, and I still go back and read it occasionally. Now the difference is that I'm inspired to train harder.
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Old 11-18-2012, 11:37 AM   #55
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Re: I sense something.. a presence I've not felt since...

If you hold a glass or a beer with your index finger pointing out, aikidokas can tell.

Pinkie pointing out, that's another story.
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Old 11-19-2012, 04:40 AM   #56
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I always get exposed...It must be the ponnytail...
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Old 11-19-2012, 08:42 AM   #57
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If you hold a glass or a beer with your index finger pointing out, aikidokas can tell.
Can tell what? And why?
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Old 11-21-2012, 05:23 AM   #58
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Can tell what? And why?
Sankyo hold, index finger points out, twist towards the uke (standing up)

Yonkyo also.

Ki direction.

Or maybe its just me!
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Old 11-21-2012, 07:25 AM   #59
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Sankyo hold, index finger points out, twist towards the uke (standing up)

Yonkyo also.

Ki direction.

Or maybe its just me!
Ohhhhh, I get it! But what if the beer is in a mug?
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Old 11-21-2012, 09:16 AM   #60
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Sankyo hold, index finger points out, twist towards the uke (standing up)

Yonkyo also.

Ki direction.

Or maybe its just me!
Sticking out a finger is almost always a mistake around my parts. I am trying to eliminate that particular counter inducer from my techniques. I think the finger thing is a training/illustrative technique gone bad.
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Old 11-21-2012, 10:16 AM   #61
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Sticking out a finger is almost always a mistake around my parts. I am trying to eliminate that particular counter inducer from my techniques. I think the finger thing is a training/illustrative technique gone bad.
Yeah, I had a fella "break" me of that habit years ago. "Oh, that's why you don't do that... Damn. Hold on, I'd better tape that finger to the other one and hit urgent care..."

Lots of folks' first reaction to something like a sankyo is to try to grab at their hand if they can get there. With a finger sticking out it's the first thing I'd go for myself if I could. Fingers make great motivators.

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Old 11-21-2012, 10:19 AM   #62
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Yeah, I had a fella "break" me of that habit years ago. "Oh, that's why you don't do that... Damn. Hold on, I'd better tape that finger to the other one and hit urgent care..."

Lots of folks' first reaction to something like a sankyo is to try to grab at their hand if they can get there. With a finger sticking out it's the first thing I'd go for myself if I could. Fingers make great motivators.
Yep. As a person with small hands myself, I've been taught that sankyo can be very effectively applied just by holding uke's pinkie...darn if I want to offer the gift of a "handle" myself!

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Old 11-21-2012, 11:01 AM   #63
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The finger thing happens in my dojo because newbs have the tendency to squeeze and twist at the wrist in sankyo rather than use the locked wrist to control uke's center. We sometimes will fix that by grabbing bokken, telling newb to cut with both index fingers pointing out ONLY TO SEE IF THEY ALIGN THEIR HANDS CORRECTLY, and then have them try sankyo again with index fingers pointing ONLY TO SEE IF THEY ALIGN THEIR HANDS CORRECTLY AND TO SEE IF NAGE'S RELATIONSHIP TO UKE'S CENTERLINE IS CORRECT. But, since sankyo all of a sudden actually starts to work for newb, they sometimes miss the point (so to speak) and think the secret is in the finger pointing.

Same thing happens with nikkyo. And we have a couple top guns who will let you know how wrong you are. I appreciate my sempai.
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Old 11-22-2012, 08:42 AM   #64
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I rest my case. Aikidokas!!!
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