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Old 11-17-2012, 12:19 PM   #26
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What rank is your instructor? It sounds like he simply doesn't know enough to teach you when to tap, and hasn't instructed the younger folk at all.

I think we're missing something in a language gap....
He is 1st dan, went for the 2nd dan but got his shoulder dislocated so, he washed out.

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Your instructor/coach may have told you that your ukemi is good - but he may not have said "for your present level of experience".

I was practicing a while ago - shortly after the nidan grading - and was complaining to the instructor (a 6th dan) that I wasn't getting some part of what he was teaching.. His reply was along the lines that I was getting better - my technique was fine for someone who was not yet a black belt but I was learning it well enough that I could tell when something was off...
And that's not really a good description of what he said.

Your ukemi and throwing may be good "for someone with 3 months training" but when you get to three years training you'll know that it probably wasn't "good"...

BTW I still struggle with the dozens of ways to do Kotegaeshi... oh.. and all the rest of them. After 17 years.
I think I am going to pay him a little visit tonight to update him with my injury , that 'll be a surprise

He still thinks it's something minor

Thanks guys
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Old 11-18-2012, 12:10 AM   #27
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I get the impression that something is really off here. Granted, I dislocated a shoulder or two when I was learning to take ukemi, but a probationary nidan jacking his shoulder that bad, from a rough young buck? That's odd.
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Old 11-18-2012, 03:00 AM   #28
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One of the nice things about Aikido is that once your partner has applied the technique to you, you then get to apply the technique to your patner. It is a cyclical relationship. If you have told these younger folks to lighten up and they do not you have a few options. Your first step would be to bring it to the attention of the instructor. If the instructor doesn't make it clear to all students that they need to be careful with their practice then I would find a new dojo. If the instructor does tell the students and they still choose to be rough then when it is your turn you reciprocate.

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Old 11-18-2012, 09:32 AM   #29
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One of the nice things about Aikido is that once your partner has applied the technique to you, you then get to apply the technique to your patner. It is a cyclical relationship. If you have told these younger folks to lighten up and they do not you have a few options. Your first step would be to bring it to the attention of the instructor. If the instructor doesn't make it clear to all students that they need to be careful with their practice then I would find a new dojo. If the instructor does tell the students and they still choose to be rough then when it is your turn you reciprocate.
IF they dont injure you first. I think that the custom of letting the senior student be nage first is wise that way, so they have a chance to set a safe and appropriate training tone with less chance of injuring their uke. And uke gets to see the technique a couple more times, as long as sempai is behaving correctly.....
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Old 11-18-2012, 07:54 PM   #30
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Will, let me inform each of you honorable members that I followed your advice and stopped with this coach tell I find another one.

Wish me luck finding another one near home as you wished me to find one from the start.

Thanks all
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Old 11-18-2012, 09:58 PM   #31
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Mohamed, best of luck in finding a good, safe place to train, if not in aikido than perhaps in another martial art.

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