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Old 05-11-2011, 09:26 PM   #51
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Re: Steven Seagal's Impact on MMA?

Steven Seagal's impact on MMA----about the same as his impact on law enforcement---almost none at all.
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Old 05-12-2011, 01:10 PM   #52
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Steven Seagal's impact on MMA----about the same as his impact on law enforcement---almost none at all.
Probably true. However, his impact on Aikido seems very real (not to mention the fact that we are still talking about him) and that certainly begs the question of at the end of the day what "impact" will you or any of the rest of us have on any of these areas? More often than not I am guessing that it may fall short of what he has accomplished even factoring in any true negative aspects rom his private life.
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Old 05-22-2011, 08:43 PM   #53
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Re: Steven Seagal's Impact on MMA?

God I laughed when I saw these "knockouts" and the words around them.
Segal is clearly a man who thinks a great deal of himself - but why shouldn't he??? Who of any of the writers here have made movies, TV Series and are world famous.
Did he teach these guys the kicks? Maybe or maybe not, but he may well have encouraged them to try something different as he sure as hell would bring a fresh approach to some seasoned MMA fighters. Good fighters seek fresh perspectives.

As an example there are now tons of Rugby League players in NZ and Aussi doing BJJ, not because a BJJ instructor can teach them how to run 50 meters with a ball, but it is a fresh persepctive on the body and how it works.
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Old 05-22-2011, 08:49 PM   #54
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Steven Seagal's impact on MMA----about the same as his impact on law enforcement---almost none at all.
Stop making me laugh. But so true.

He should come to NZ and tyr and do a "lawman" series the cops here would say "sure, even bring your camera, but shed a few kilos first...no fatties allowed."
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Old 05-23-2011, 08:33 AM   #55
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Re: Steven Seagal's Impact on MMA?

Why so much hate for the man? I've never trained with him but know some people who did and they were thoroughly impressed.

I also hope non of you get fat when you grow up!! The ridicule you'll have to endure on public forums would be tremendous!!

Machida says Seagal helped him perfect that kick so what's not to believe. I've also seen Seagal work with Anderson Silva.

I don't think many people here have had an opportunity to advise any pro MMA fighters.

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Old 05-23-2011, 09:54 AM   #56
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Why so much hate for the man? I've never trained with him but know some people who did and they were thoroughly impressed.

I also hope non of you get fat when you grow up!! The ridicule you'll have to endure on public forums would be tremendous!!

Machida says Seagal helped him perfect that kick so what's not to believe. I've also seen Seagal work with Anderson Silva.

I don't think many people here have had an opportunity to advise any pro MMA fighters.

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I agree... From what I've seen in his videos, "Path Beyond Thought"...etc, his Aikido looks very Martial and effective. I've also spoken to a few people that have visited and trained with some of his students. Their thoughts are the same...very effective and martial aikido being practiced.
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Old 05-23-2011, 01:16 PM   #57
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Stop making me laugh. But so true.

He should come to NZ and tyr and do a "lawman" series the cops here would say "sure, even bring your camera, but shed a few kilos first...no fatties allowed."
I don't know about that, I've seen some pretty tubby cops.

Anyway, I've never understood why his weight is such a commonly mentioned issue when it's not even mentioned for most of the many portly instructors out there - and there are quite a few!

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Old 05-23-2011, 03:45 PM   #58
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I've taken Ukemi from him and he is 6"6' and about 260/270. You can imagine the result.

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Old 05-23-2011, 05:39 PM   #59
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IMHO, letting aside the accomplishments in his cinema/singing/tv career, a lot of people came to know Aikido through this guy...
Which is (probably) a good thing at the end of the day...
I`m one of those, ive studied traditional aikido for 15 years and had it not been for this gentleman, I may never of known about Aikido, One day I would like to thank him for that. Onegaishimasu
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Old 05-23-2011, 07:06 PM   #60
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Re: Steven Seagal's Impact on MMA?

Check out the facekick at 1:28...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHWfY...e_gdata_player
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Old 05-28-2011, 09:54 AM   #61
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I've taken Ukemi from him and he is 6"6' and about 260/270. You can imagine the result.

William Hazen
Dear Mr Hazen,
Gentle was it? Cheers, Joe
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Old 05-28-2011, 12:10 PM   #62
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I agree... From what I've seen in his videos, "Path Beyond Thought"...etc, his Aikido looks very Martial and effective. I've also spoken to a few people that have visited and trained with some of his students. Their thoughts are the same...very effective and martial aikido being practiced.
As an Aikikai Shihan I would tend to think that anyone that argues that Seagal couldn't benefit an MMA fighter as a coach would simply be ignorant of what Aikido has to offer.

What I'm very interested in seeing is how this all pans out. Are we going to start seeing Machida and Silva utilizing more Aikido-esque footwork/movement?

Silva will be fighting Yushin Okami in Rio and from what I've been reading Machida may be fighting Jon Jones later this year. So we'll have an opportunity to see if Seagal is able to impart any more knowledge.
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Old 05-29-2011, 10:23 AM   #63
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"When we, as first generation American aikidoists, saw Stevan Segal's first movie we were excited beyond belief. For all you can say about him, no one else brought the image of O'Sensei on to the big screen. It was amazing for us to sit in a theater, thousands of miles from Japan, and see the image of our master and aikido on the screen, larger than life. It was incredible! For that, I'll always thank Steven Segal."
-Bob Frager Sensei to me in 1992.
My perspective, too. Hats off, Mr. Segal!
Domo Arigtao Gozaimashita

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oi6_H1mj5H4

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Thankyou for again bringing more students to the dojo. It seems like only yesterday that you were releasing cinema blockbusters that brought a veritable flood of students to our dojos. But the last few years in between have been a bit quiet. The widening of the genre to feature native american values, environmental issues, just guns or perhaps only a single technique was perhaps missed by the mainstream population. So we welcomed Lawman in eager anticipation and held firm in the belief that there would something special coming soon. Domo arigato

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