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Old 08-06-2010, 10:19 PM   #26
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Re: Limerick challenge!

uke's this is for you

I know an uke or two,
who know just what to do.
When you throw them down,
they pop off the ground
and come right back to you!

"Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment."
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Old 12-26-2010, 09:29 PM   #27
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Re: Limerick challenge!

I know a black belt named Bill,
to uke for him is a thrill!
Every move is a shock,
and done solid as a rock,
by a black belt named Bill.

*How we love to work with the jo!
Our fantasy prowess we love to show,
untill our sensei picks up a jo!


("We" is referring to the Kyuu Ranks at out dojo)

Last edited by JCT53 : 12-26-2010 at 09:32 PM.

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Old 12-28-2010, 04:34 PM   #28
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Re: Limerick challenge!

Zaitoshi was beset by blindness,
But could see through his love and his kindness;
He was calm, he was centered,
And all enemies who entered,
Became spiritless,bodyless and mindless.
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Old 12-28-2010, 07:34 PM   #29
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Re: Limerick challenge!

Cool! That was a very new spin on this tread!

"Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment."
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Old 12-29-2010, 04:37 AM   #30
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Re: Limerick challenge!

In our class we are about thirty
and everyone brings a cake for his birthday,
although we sweat a lot each day
with all that sweet we'll put on weight
which to take ukemis is great
because we protect our bones,
fall very soft and stop our moans.
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Old 12-29-2010, 01:12 PM   #31
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Re: Limerick challenge!

There once was a man from Nantucket...
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Old 12-29-2010, 06:20 PM   #32
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Re: Limerick challenge!

There once was a man from Nantucket,
Who could do small waza under a bucket.
Until he met Massachusetts Mary,
He thought he was light and airy,
Then he wished he'd have ducked it!

Michael
"Leave the gun. Bring the cannoli."
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Old 12-29-2010, 08:26 PM   #33
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Re: Limerick challenge!

There is more than one Mary from Massachusetts.

There once was a gent ..quite clever,
When asked about ki said "No, Never!"
Always when tested,
His nage he bested,
He will throw with just muscle forever!

Mary

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Old 12-29-2010, 09:29 PM   #34
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Re: Limerick challenge!

There was a young shodan named Harry
Of his nikyo you'd better be wary
Before you could think
He'd wind up and krink
If you ask if it hurt I'd say very

(The Harry part just fit the rhyme, but the verb krink may have
been invented by one of my assistants)

Please keep sending limericks they're great fun for New Years!
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Old 12-29-2010, 10:26 PM   #35
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Re: Limerick challenge!

But only one who would throw out "Nantucket" like some raw steak to a pit bull!

Michael
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Old 01-20-2011, 10:10 AM   #36
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Re: Limerick challenge!

in ice and snow
to class I shall go
a blizzard I brave
for the aikido I crave

4 inches of snow for us today
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Old 01-25-2011, 08:25 PM   #37
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uke's this is for you

I know an uke or two,
who know just what to do.
When you throw them down,
they pop off the ground
and come right back to you!
OK...I'm sorry, but in a limerick, the meter is the most important thing. Every syllable counts and the rhythm has to be smooth.

Here's the pattern

da-DA-da da-DA-da da-DA-da
da-DA-da da-DA-da da-DA-da
da-DA-da da-DA
da-DA-da da-DA
da-DA-da da-DA-da da-DA-da

A real classic:

There was a young woman named Bright
whose speed was much faster than light.
She set out one day
in a relative way
And returned on the previous night.

In that one, the author sort of squeezes "and returned" into the rhythm of just "returned" but it fits very naturally.

And then there's the classic Nantucket verse:

There once was a man from Nantucket
who kept all his eggs in a bucket...

Or was that how it goes?

Anyway, the meter is what defines a limerick. If you miss that, it simply isn't a limerick.

Otherwise, good sentiments, but I wonder if we could do better.

(For non-native-speakers of English, don't worry. Nice try.)

Best wishes.

David

"That which has no substance can enter where there is no room."
Lao Tzu

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Old 01-25-2011, 09:18 PM   #38
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OK...I'm sorry, but in a limerick, the meter is the most important thing. Every syllable counts and the rhythm has to be smooth.
And now that I've criticized, I'll offer one of my own:

An aikido man who was happy
would make all his ukes feel sappy.
He'd roll them around
and they'd flip to the ground
because all his waza were snappy.

Not great, but it does fit the form, just as an example.

So let's see if I can do better. Here's one that varies the count very slightly, which works if you keep it consistent:

There once was a puppy named Neat.
She never could get food to eat.
The others were faster.
They muscled right past her.
So her owner gave her a treat.

And here's one of the best I ever heard, if not the greatest ever written, which fits the original pattern:

A hillbilly who was named Hollis
used possums and snakes for solace.
His children had scales
and prehensile tails
And voted for Governor Wallace.

Sublime on so many levels.

Thank you. Thank you.

David

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Old 01-26-2011, 02:05 PM   #39
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Re: Limerick challenge!

Actually David...

Line one of your first rhyme is dicey,
though the rest of it flows rather nicely
the second one lacks
the last lines a bit slack
but the third's put together quite nicely.

But thanks for pointing out the importance of meter in a Limerick. I bet lots of people did not realize that poetry has rules.
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Old 01-26-2011, 03:29 PM   #40
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I bet lots of people did not realize that poetry has rules.
Like this haiku:

Long did I walk through winter woods, and slowly
did I see the snowflakes falling
and the sight did take me wholly
through the halls of long lost memories,
through the shadows of lost time.
And there, upon the cresting hill,
the sun came up, sublime.
And near the stream, where the old stone wall is,
who should I see, but noble Hollis...

There's more. It's kind of long for a haiku, but I'm proud of it!



David

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Old 01-26-2011, 08:37 PM   #41
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Wow...David. That's beautiful.
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Old 01-26-2011, 09:19 PM   #42
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Wow...David. That's beautiful.
Well, thanks, but it's just a toss off joke, really--a haiku with about 100 syllables....to point up something really missing the supposed form...

And "noble Hollis," of course, is the hillbilly who was named Hollis.....don't know who wrote that limerick...

But here's something serious, from about 1986:

TARGETS

Poets are places where lightning strikes:
not once, but again, and again.
Targets for luminous bolts of fire,
knowing each breath could be their last,
they fasten words of hope and truth
to pages, which burn with desire
to touch someone with beauty and vision,
to exorcise pain of the vast cataclysm,
to live in the limitless ocean of their dreams.
The true poets I have known have shown me
that all that endures is consumed.
Followed, themselves, by pillars of flame,
they burn into timeless beams.

David

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Old 01-26-2011, 09:27 PM   #43
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Re: Limerick challenge!

There was a young woman with aiki
Whose talk seemed at least a tad wacky
She said to a friend
It's you I'll up-end
And she left him folded like taffy.
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Old 01-26-2011, 09:45 PM   #44
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Re: Limerick challenge!

Nice one. Most of my poetry tends to take the form of Rhyming couplets. But sometimes they are a bit more free form like this one.

When the very foundations,
That you stand upon,
Are shaken.
When the pillars
That support you
Begin to crumble,
And fade away.
Where then,
Do you turn for stability?
Turn inward
Turn inward
The calm heart
The very eye of the storm
Only there
Will you find a measure of true peace.

Of course we digress. This is supposed to be a thread about Limericks.

Have you noticed the aikiweb trend
discussions go on without end
Whether IP's a farce
or is that dude an arse?
And neither side willing to bend.
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Old 01-27-2011, 09:29 PM   #45
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Nice one. Most of my poetry tends to take the form of Rhyming couplets. But sometimes they are a bit more free form like this one...
Nice, Cherie. Thanks.

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Of course we digress. This is supposed to be a thread about Limericks.

Have you noticed the aikiweb trend
discussions go on without end
Whether IP's a farce
or is that dude an arse?
And neither side willing to bend.
How's this one?

Some people, they just love to talk.
"Bock-bock-bock-bock-bock," then they balk.
They say they can do it
but then they eschew it.
As if Truth were written in chalk!

How's that?

Best to you.

David

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Old 01-27-2011, 10:23 PM   #46
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May I just say, on a lighter theme,
I just had an incredible dream;
O'Sensei said attack,
So I attacked where he sat,
Found him gone yet I was where he'd been!
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Old 01-27-2011, 11:03 PM   #47
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May I just say, on a lighter theme,
I just had an incredible dream;
O'Sensei said attack,
So I attacked where he sat,
Found him gone yet I was where he'd been!
Nice sentiments, Graham, but I can't sense the timing of this.

The first line doesn't seem to fit the pattern.

There once was a man from Nantucket
Da-DA-da da-DA-da da-DA-da

Say if you took "I just had an incredible dream" and made it something like this:

I just had a wonderful dream

That fits.

And then there's supposed to be a second line of the same count, you see, for it to be a "limerick".

So maybe you could say:

I just had a wonderful dream
I saw OSensei by a stream

So there are your first two lines, fitting the meter pattern.

The next two would be paired, as well, but of a shorter meter:

da-DA-da da-DA
da-DA-da da-DA

You have:

O'Sensei said attack,
So I attacked where he sat,

You see, it misses the meter?

Perhaps if you said something like this:

He told me, "ATTACK!"
So I punched where he sat.

or "I kicked where he sat," or "I struck where he sat" or "I thrust" or whatever would fit that meter. You see?

And then the last line....

Found him gone yet I was where he'd been

which is ok but still a bit awkward.

How about: "He was gone, though I was where he'd been"?

And looking back, I guess you did have a first line. The way it appeared in the post, it looked like an opening comment, so I didn't realize it was part of the poem:

"May I just say, on a lighter theme"

Again, though, I think it's a bit loose on the meter:

Da-DA-da da-DA-da da-DA-da

But what if you said, "May I say, on a bit lighter theme...."

That fits.

So what if you phrased it like this:

May I say, on a bit lighter theme
that I just had a wonderful dream
O Sensei said "Attack!"
So I struck where he sat.
He was gone, though I was where he'd been.

But the meter...is still just a bit wobbly, isn't it? "O Sensei said 'attack'" just doesn't quite fit, does it?

So how about this:

I just had a wonderful dream.
I saw O Sensei by a stream.
He told me, "Attack!"
So I punched where he sat.
He was gone, though I was where he'd been.

It's rather like the footwork in aikido, isn't it? The timing has to be just so, or the technique is wobbly, or just falls apart.

What do you think?

Best wishes.

David

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Old 01-27-2011, 11:33 PM   #48
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Nice sentiments, Graham, but I can't sense the timing of this.

The first line doesn't seem to fit the pattern.

There once was a man from Nantucket
Da-DA-da da-DA-da da-DA-da

Say if you took "I just had an incredible dream" and made it something like this:

I just had a wonderful dream

That fits.

And then there's supposed to be a second line of the same count, you see, for it to be a "limerick".

So maybe you could say:

I just had a wonderful dream
I saw OSensei by a stream

So there are your first two lines, fitting the meter pattern.

The next two would be paired, as well, but of a shorter meter:

da-DA-da da-DA
da-DA-da da-DA

You have:

O'Sensei said attack,
So I attacked where he sat,

You see, it misses the meter?

Perhaps if you said something like this:

He told me, "ATTACK!"
So I punched where he sat.

or "I kicked where he sat," or "I struck where he sat" or "I thrust" or whatever would fit that meter. You see?

And then the last line....

Found him gone yet I was where he'd been

which is ok but still a bit awkward.

How about: "He was gone, though I was where he'd been"?

And looking back, I guess you did have a first line. The way it appeared in the post, it looked like an opening comment, so I didn't realize it was part of the poem:

"May I just say, on a lighter theme"

Again, though, I think it's a bit loose on the meter:

Da-DA-da da-DA-da da-DA-da

But what if you said, "May I say, on a bit lighter theme...."

That fits.

So what if you phrased it like this:

May I say, on a bit lighter theme
that I just had a wonderful dream
O Sensei said "Attack!"
So I struck where he sat.
He was gone, though I was where he'd been.

But the meter...is still just a bit wobbly, isn't it? "O Sensei said 'attack'" just doesn't quite fit, does it?

So how about this:

I just had a wonderful dream.
I saw O Sensei by a stream.
He told me, "Attack!"
So I punched where he sat.
He was gone, though I was where he'd been.

It's rather like the footwork in aikido, isn't it? The timing has to be just so, or the technique is wobbly, or just falls apart.

What do you think?

Best wishes.

David
Excellent! Love the analysis and the result.
Well done.G.
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Old 01-28-2011, 12:02 AM   #49
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Excellent! Love the analysis and the result.
Well done.G.
How about this one:

An aikido woman named Janet
told two crazy fellows to "Can it!
You're both full of fears
and it's hurting my ears!"
"Yes, stop it!" replied the whole planet!



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Old 01-28-2011, 06:50 AM   #50
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How about this one:

An aikido woman named Janet
told two crazy fellows to "Can it!
You're both full of fears
and it's hurting my ears!"
"Yes, stop it!" replied the whole planet!



David
^^This is my favorite!

Last night doing ikkyonage
My sensei a thought tried to convey
So I grabbed on his wrist
and he gave a great twist
and I flew through the air like a bluejay
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