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Old 12-08-2010, 01:38 PM   #276
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Re: Why do some people hate Aikido?

Bring out the Holy Aiki Grenade....

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Old 12-08-2010, 02:15 PM   #277
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[clop clop whinny]
KNIGHT: They're nervous, sire.
ARTHUR: Then we'd best leave them here and carry on on foot. Dis-mount!
TIM: Behold the cave of Kyre Banorg!
ARTHUR: Right! Keep me covered.
KNIGHT: What with?
ARTHUR: Just keep me covered.
TIM: Too late!
[chord]
ARTHUR: What?
TIM: There he is!
ARTHUR: Where?
TIM: There!
ARTHUR: What, behind the rabbit?
TIM: It is the rabbit!
ARTHUR: You silly sod! You got us all worked up!
TIM: Well, that's no ordinary rabbit. That's the most foul, cruel,
and bad-tempered rodent you ever set eyes on.
ROBIN: You tit! I soiled my armor I was so scared!
TIM: Look, that rabbit's got a vicious streak a mile wide, it's a
killer!
KNIGHT: Get stuffed!
TIM: It'll do you a trick, mate!
KNIGHT: Oh, yeah?
ROBIN: You mangy Scot git!
TIM: I'm warning you!
ROBIN: What's he do, nibble your bum?
TIM: He's got huge, sharp-- he can leap about-- look at the bones!
ARTHUR: Go on, Boris. Chop his head off!
BORIS: Right! Silly little bleeder. One rabbit stew comin' right up!
TIM: Look!
[squeak]
BORIS: Aaaugh!
[chord]
Ha Ha!! Yes very good, but then I would expect that from a bunnie....
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Old 12-08-2010, 02:17 PM   #278
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Bring out the Holy Aiki Grenade....

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Have you got one?.....
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Old 12-08-2010, 02:24 PM   #279
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Ha Ha!! Yes very good, but then I would expect that from a bunnie....
Who -- Boris? Be nice, he lost his head, that's all.

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Old 12-08-2010, 03:29 PM   #280
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Who -- Boris? Be nice, he lost his head, that's all.
Boris..... ha ha ha!! nnnyyah what's up mein doctor....?
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Old 12-08-2010, 03:32 PM   #281
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Have you got one?.....
Thou shalt countith to san and not to roku before throwing the Holy Aiki Grenade from Antioch..... !

Marc Abrams

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Old 12-08-2010, 08:12 PM   #282
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Hi Tony,

Glad to hear you're still kicking it. But dude, I thoguht you knew, hop spings eternal.

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Old 12-08-2010, 09:29 PM   #283
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Thou shalt countith to san and not to roku before throwing the Holy Aiki Grenade from Antioch..... !

Marc Abrams
"Ichi! Ni! Go!"

"San, sir!"

"San!"

Let silence be my mantra.
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Old 12-08-2010, 11:17 PM   #284
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What's the point in living a lie?
...
Most mainstream "aikido" is an insult to those of the walk and not the talk.....

There's plenty a laughing, believe it or do you have your head buried in the sand?......
The very word itself has become a laughing stock, and its all down to the bunnies
Well put. It sounds as if you may have seen the elephant a time or two. Good hunting and best of luck in your training.
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Old 12-09-2010, 01:51 AM   #285
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Hi Tony,

Glad to hear you're still kicking it. But dude, I thoguht you knew, hop spings eternal.

Regards,
Run rabbit run rabbit run run run.......

So am I........

Merry Crimbo Everyone..... As I'm so poor at present so bunny is definitely on the menu.....!!!

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Old 12-09-2010, 02:32 AM   #286
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Is it aikido they hate or is it the bunnies that infest it?........
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Hi Tony

In the 1950s /60s Aikido was respected by other martial artists, that was where 90% of our new students came from...Aikido now leaves itself wide open to ridicule with no touch throws, acrobatic ukies that take off at the pointing of a magic finger. Aikido with coloured ribbons which can easily be mistaken for Morris Dancing.
Aikido to music...

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Old 12-09-2010, 08:56 AM   #287
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And what do you have against recycling? What is old to some is brand new to others. Resurrecting an old thread simply saves you oldies the trouble of repeating yourselves since it is all right there already.
There's no need to recycle when something is already perfectly good...or, rather, as good as it ever was. What's to stop people from reading the old thread, saying to themselves, "Hmm, well, I have an opinion on this subject, but it looks like others have already said everything I was going to say. I don't really have anything to add, and a year-after-the-fact 'what he said' is kind of pointless, so I'll just skip it"?
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Old 12-09-2010, 08:57 AM   #288
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Hi Tony

In the 1950s /60s Aikido was respected by other martial artists, that was where 90% of our new students came from...Aikido now leaves itself wide open to ridicule with no touch throws, acrobatic ukies that take off at the pointing of a magic finger. Aikido with coloured ribbons which can easily be mistaken for Morris Dancing.
Aikido to music...

Henry Ellis
http://aikidoarticles.blogspot.com/
Yes, absolutely......I couldn't agree more...... I was speaking to Mike Tracey yesterday and we were reminding/reminiscing ourselves of the "golden years" of the B.A.A. how it seemed to slip from a standard point of view amongst the regions......How Tomiki/Shodokan aiki has improved from the intervention of one of Tomiki's protege's, Nariyama Shihan and his prominent deshi.... I was lucky and proud to have people like Mike, Brian Eustace, Itsuo Haba and others as my mentors and sensei as they all have good Judo with the exception of Itsuo, who I know has also practised some Judo, but mostly Kendo and Jodo, plus they are are all good "Tomiki" men..... Itsuo having been all J.A.A tanto randori champion (veteran as well!!) and well known for his speed and agility.....

Thanks Henry.... Always uplifting to hear from a Real Aikidoka
Happy Crimbo and may your New Year be a
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Old 12-09-2010, 09:04 AM   #289
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There's no need to recycle when something is already perfectly good...or, rather, as good as it ever was. What's to stop people from reading the old thread, saying to themselves, "Hmm, well, I have an opinion on this subject, but it looks like others have already said everything I was going to say. I don't really have anything to add, and a year-after-the-fact 'what he said' is kind of pointless, so I'll just skip it"?
Well sorry Mary, I just like to jolt people out of their deluded slumber .....
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Old 12-09-2010, 09:21 AM   #290
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Well put. It sounds as if you may have seen the elephant a time or two. Good hunting and best of luck in your training.
Yes John, unfortunately or fortunately (depending on how you look at it)
I have encountered a few nasty elephants in my time, but glad to say not in the dojo, except one "but what if" idiot who I dispatched out through the dojo doors at high speed, and luckily outside the dojo with no cctv or "funny" people to witness it either.... .....Kesara.....

And thank you for those kind words

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Old 12-09-2010, 10:26 AM   #291
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What's to stop people from reading the old thread, saying to themselves, "Hmm, well, I have an opinion on this subject, but it looks like others have already said everything I was going to say. I don't really have anything to add, and a year-after-the-fact 'what he said' is kind of pointless, so I'll just skip it"?
For a thread that you consider to be of no value...there have been 27, count them, 27 additional posts. People are interacting and having fun, enjoying themselves. That is quite a bit more than some othermind-boggling, thought provoking threads ever attain.

Without the constant reminder of " Another dead thread resurrected"....and how would we live without the "snarky" thoughts, we look forward to seeing from you.

One possibility, Aikido forums are not about having fun, they must be about censure from persons who have not attained standing in the Aikido Community...just their own little bunny hutch.

Awe, the beauty of the internet... don't you just love it!
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Old 12-09-2010, 11:01 AM   #292
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For a thread that you consider to be of no value...there have been 27, count them, 27 additional posts. People are interacting and having fun, enjoying themselves. That is quite a bit more than some othermind-boggling, thought provoking threads ever attain.

Without the constant reminder of " Another dead thread resurrected"....and how would we live without the "snarky" thoughts, we look forward to seeing from you.

One possibility, Aikido forums are not about having fun, they must be about censure from persons who have not attained standing in the Aikido Community...just their own little bunny hutch.

Awe, the beauty of the internet... don't you just love it!
Michael
I totally agree with your comments...I can never understand when people complain about a ``thread `` , if I am not interested in the subject being discussed, I simply ignore it.

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Old 12-09-2010, 11:20 AM   #293
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I totally agree with your comments...I can never understand when people complain about a ``thread `` , if I am not interested in the subject being discussed, I simply ignore it.

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Ditto.....
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Old 12-09-2010, 12:10 PM   #294
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....There's plenty a laughing, believe it or do you have your head buried in the sand?......
The very word itself has become a laughing stock, and its all down to the bunnies
Maybe online, but that depends on where you surf. Most of the arugments about it that I've come across have been .... here! In the real world, I haven't run into laughter from anyone I train with in other arts. In fact, one of the best pro-Aikido stories I've heard came from one of the guys I know in JKD. But again, I guess it depends on where you are

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Old 12-09-2010, 12:29 PM   #295
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Maybe online, but that depends on where you surf. Most of the arugments about it that I've come across have been .... here! In the real world, I haven't run into laughter from anyone I train with in other arts. In fact, one of the best pro-Aikido stories I've heard came from one of the guys I know in JKD. But again, I guess it depends on where you are
Sadly, not enough from other M.A.
In general it's the aiki community that have themselves to blame.....

If it was'ny for people like Henry Ellis Sensei, It would be dying that much faster.....

I'm a nobody and I know it..... The difference is I've done some walking.....
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Old 12-09-2010, 12:58 PM   #296
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Michael
I totally agree with your comments...I can never understand when people complain about a ``thread `` , if I am not interested in the subject being discussed, I simply ignore it.

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Pretty much. I read in this forum every few days. I post to maybe 1% of what I read. If I find something uninteresting, I just ignore it.
Some one to remain nameless on this forum once told me, "Make sure you never have more posts on this forum than you have hours on the mat." I took the statement to heart. My Aikido experience should be better defined by my time training and the relationships it fosters. I think something is horribly unbalanced in some one's Aikido experience if the goings on of a website reflects any when the computer is turned off.

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Old 12-09-2010, 01:02 PM   #297
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One possibility, Aikido forums are not about having fun, they must be about censure from persons who have not attained standing in the Aikido Community...just their own little bunny hutch.

Awe, the beauty of the internet... don't you just love it!
Yes indeed, the beauty of the internet, where you can quickly find the meaning of phrases like "ad hominem".
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Old 12-09-2010, 01:38 PM   #298
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Pretty much. I read in this forum every few days. I post to maybe 1% of what I read. If I find something uninteresting, I just ignore it.
Some one to remain nameless on this forum once told me, "Make sure you never have more posts on this forum than you have hours on the mat." I took the statement to heart. My Aikido experience should be better defined by my time training and the relationships it fosters. I think something is horribly unbalanced in some one's Aikido experience if the goings on of a website reflects any when the computer is turned off.
Maybe they have one in the dojo?......
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Old 12-09-2010, 01:41 PM   #299
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I totally agree with your comments...I can never understand when people complain about a ``thread `` , if I am not interested in the subject being discussed, I simply ignore it.

Henry Ellis
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They can't allow other viewpoints

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Old 12-09-2010, 02:27 PM   #300
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Maybe they have one in the dojo?......

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