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Old 05-15-2009, 10:55 PM   #26
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Re: Aikido book from the 50's or early 60's?

I have the 5th edition, 1974 of This is Aikido with the original jacket albeit a little worn-since I bought the book new that many years ago. Pages are yellowing a bit - I guess they are not acid free.
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Old 05-15-2009, 10:58 PM   #27
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found the book it is "Aikido the art of self defence " . I contacted Bernie lau and verified that ,i guess i have the japanese version .Interesting the photos are of yukiso yamamoto sensei and of Local hawaiian aikidoka ,i guess Tohei wrote it in hawaii on his 2nd trip to hawaii . Man bernies got some cool stuff !! cool pictures . i will post some soon .
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Re: Aikido book from the 50's or early 60's?

Most of the early 60's English-language Aikido texts have both prior- and post-publication Japanese-language editions. Some English-language titles are actually compilations of two different Japanese-language books.

Books bearing authentic inscriptions from O'Sensei are extremely rare, and should be preserved. Valuation is difficult, as there is no authoritative market. I would not sell any of mine for any price.

Books bearing inscriptions from Koichi Tohei Sensei are much more common, as Tohei Sensei was a prolific signer for decades, although he no longer does it.

"This is Aikido" has two main editions, and many re-printings. It has been published in both hardbound and softcover. The "first edition" is most easily recognized by the wording on the dust cover. The first edition dust cover has only "Koichi Tohei - 10th Dan", while the revised edition has the added words "with mind and body coordinated" and additional Ki Society nomenclature. This book is often marketed with highly inflated pricing for such a widely marketed publication. Often, sellers will price their own copies by looking at what others are asking (but not getting). You can usually get a copy in the $50 range if you are vigilant or make offers, although signed or first printings will command a higher price. Patience is a virtue.

"How to Develop Ki" is a much rarer publication, being part of a limited edition 5-volume booklet series published in Hawaii under the authority of Tohei Sensei. The paper and stapled bindings were crude, and deteriorate rapidly. Although all the information contained in this series is widely available in Tohei's more mainstream book offerings, the collector value for these booklets is considerable, and they are rarely offered, particularly as a set. Your copy, signed by Tohei and Maruyama could easily bring a couple hundred bucks.

The Bibliography section at aikidojournal.com is a derivative of the database from my personal collection. It has cover scans of these and most-other English-language Aikido books, along with publication data and other info. You can search by author for everything done by, for instance, Tohei Sensei. It's as complete as you will find anywhere, and most tell me it is very useful. Stan Pranin has done an excellent job with it.
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Old 09-22-2009, 06:11 PM   #29
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Man i just interiewed a 2 former aikidokas who started in the 1950's for my project and they gave me all of their aikido books !!!!!
One Gentleman gave me is "This is Aikido" first edition signed by Koichi Tohei (in cardboard slipcover in near mint condtion and even dated too!) and the original "spirit of aikido " in japanese. The other Gentleman gave me all of his Ki Society pamplets (sans Ki Breathing ). I was not expecting any thing other than information but both gentleman were exstatic about someone chronicling this information . Man I got quite a collection now !!!!
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"This is Aikido" has two main editions, and many re-printings. It has been published in both hardbound and softcover. The "first edition" is most easily recognized by the wording on the dust cover. The first edition dust cover has only "Koichi Tohei - 10th Dan", while the revised edition has the added words "with mind and body coordinated" and additional Ki Society nomenclature...
Actually, the first edition of This is Aikido, printing dated August 1968, has Tohei listed as 9th dan on the dust cover. I believe later printings had him listed as 10th dan.

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Old 09-22-2009, 08:47 PM   #31
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Actually, the first edition of This is Aikido, printing dated August 1968, has Tohei listed as 9th dan on the dust cover. I believe later printings had him listed as 10th dan.
You are right. The very first printing, first edition (1968) lists him as 9th dan. In 1969, after Tohei had been promoted to 10th dan, the book was reprinted with the revised rank indicated, but this printing was not at that time described in the publisher's data as a "second printing". That designation officially fell on the 1971 printing. The 1969 printing was made to appear to be still in the first printing, and so it is marketed that way to this day. Subsequent printings (1972, 1973, 1974) prior to the 1975 "revised edition" were still designated first edition, but obviously not first printing. These editions also contained the Ki Society references and contact info, replacing the Aikikai Hombu. Eventually, the "prior printings" data (beginning in the 1975 edition) was revised to acknowledge the mysterious 1969 printing as the second printing, but oddly enough, there was then no 1971 printing mentioned, even though it did happen. Confusing enough?

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Old 09-22-2009, 08:56 PM   #32
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By the way, Jamie... That is quite a haul you made. Enjoy them, but be warned: You are on a very slippery slope. Once the book bug bites you, you stay bitten...
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Old 09-22-2009, 09:26 PM   #33
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You are right. The very first printing, first edition (1968) lists him as 9th dan. In 1969, after Tohei had been promoted to 10th dan, the book was reprinted with the revised rank indicated, but this printing was not at that time described in the publisher's data as a "second printing". That designation officially fell on the 1971 printing. The 1969 printing was made to appear to be still in the first printing, and so it is marketed that way to this day. Subsequent printings (1972, 1973, 1974) prior to the 1975 "revised edition" were still designated first edition, but obviously not first printing. These editions also contained the Ki Society references and contact info, replacing the Aikikai Hombu. Eventually, the "prior printings" data (beginning in the 1975 edition) was revised to acknowledge the mysterious 1969 printing as the second printing, but oddly enough, there was then no 1971 printing mentioned, even though it did happen. Confusing enough?
Yes, confusing indeed I have a 1968 first printing, a 1975 revised edition first printing, and a 1976 revised edition second printing...
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Old 09-22-2009, 11:44 PM   #34
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Yeah its the 1968 "9th dan " edition .Man they need to reprint this book ,for a while my sensei said it was THE book for a while .
Of note also two of the Ukes are Takashi Nonaka 8th dan Ki society, Hilo Ki society and the late Suzuki Sensei 9th dan ,Maui Ki club . Mr Nonaka was gracious enough to sign it also too. Man do i have the book bug !!!!
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Old 09-23-2009, 06:27 AM   #35
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Man do i have the book bug !!!!
You're in a good place for it. With Tohei's roots there (and Maruyama's), Hawaii is fertile ground, especially if you like signed editions or those Ki Society booklets. Be wary of the "signed edition" hype, though, as Tohei was a signer of prolific proportions, and signed literally thousands of books, including some by other authors, including Maruyama's and even Kisshomaru Doshu's early work (prior to the "big bang").
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Old 09-23-2009, 07:39 AM   #36
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yeah and actually i found out that some people especially the senseis out here have things autographed by O Sensei also . I guess because this was hawaii and not japan , O Sensei was much more approachable shaking hands and signing things at the demonstrations they held here . I know of at least 2 other people here with autographs besides mine .
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I was able to verify the signature on the book with John Stevens when he did his seminar here in Hilo. He was quite surprised with it also.
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Re: Aikido book from the 50's or early 60's?

Hi,

I have "What is Aikido?" by Koichi Tohei, 9th Dan (his rank then).

First printing: September 1962
Publishers: Rikugei Publishing House, Tokyo, Japan
Printed in Japan by Tokyo News Services Ltd.

Is this a collector's item?

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Yeah thats a great book!! I am trying to find a copy of that myself.
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Yeah thats a great book!! I am trying to find a copy of that myself.
Then here is where you can find it...
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I have "What is Aikido?" by Koichi Tohei, 9th Dan (his rank then).

First printing: September 1962
Publishers: Rikugei Publishing House, Tokyo, Japan
Printed in Japan by Tokyo News Services Ltd.

Is this a collector's item?
Not a major one, although a first printing more so than other issues. The book was mass-marketed, compared to some of that era. As you can see from the link in my previous post, many copies are currently available for fairly cheap prices.
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Old 11-19-2010, 01:38 PM   #42
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Cool !! Is there any recommended early aikido book that anyone can recommend?
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Hi,

I have "What is Aikido?" by Koichi Tohei, 9th Dan (his rank then).

First printing: September 1962
Publishers: Rikugei Publishing House, Tokyo, Japan
Printed in Japan by Tokyo News Services Ltd.

Is this a collector's item?

David Y
I have a first edition, August 1968, 'This is Aikido' that lists Tohei as 9th Dan as well - it is brand new and still in its original shipping box from the publisher - I bought it a couple of years ago from a lady who was liquidating stock from her deceased father's bookshop in Hawaii - apparently, when the father died, the mother would not let anything go until many years after the father's death - anyway, I was the first owner of the book after all these years. I keep it sealed in plastic and do not open it since I have a couple other editions for reference.

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