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Old 11-22-2009, 10:44 PM   #1
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Careful: Google never forgives...or forgets

I have an admission of sorts to make.

When I first signed up for Aikiweb (lo, these many years ago? 2002? 2000? 1753?), I was young and dumb. Now that I'm slightly less young ( ), it occurs to me that I may have said some pretty dang stupid things in the course of a decade's worth of learning.

Unfortunately, Google doesn't account for youthful indiscretion. (And hey, who knew Google would be so...Orwellian a decade on?), so there's no point in begging for forgiveness from them

OTOH, please indulge me when I say: any truly remarkable idiocy posted under my screen-name (which is now wonderfully archived)? My bad.

A wizard did it


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Old 11-23-2009, 05:35 AM   #2
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Old 11-23-2009, 08:48 AM   #3
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Re: Careful: Google never forgives...or forgets

Haha... Yeah. People always say you shouldn't post anything on the Internet (or send it in an email) that you wouldn't want to see tomorrow on the company bulletin board.

They forget to add "... ever."

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Old 11-23-2009, 09:41 AM   #4
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Re: Careful: Google never forgives...or forgets

lol..yeah...there is stuff I typed back in 1996 out there and my opinions have matured/changed quite a bit since then!

Nothing wrong with saying, yeah well...I was wrong!

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Old 11-23-2009, 09:48 AM   #5
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Re: Careful: Google never forgives...or forgets

Wasn't it Churchill that said something like: it's better to remain silent and have people think you a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt?

...Although personally I hold the opposite to be true. How else can I be called on my BS after all?

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Old 11-23-2009, 10:37 AM   #6
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Re: Careful: Google never forgives...or forgets

Actually I've long been an advocate of saying what you think and acknowledging that your knowledge/maturity/depth/etc. will change over time. I'd rather see growth, improvement, etc. over the years. I was pretty open about sharing my learning experience when I first started doing the sword crafts. I put it out there. I let people read what I was doing. I took criticism. And at least some of the time I managed to learn from it. Sure, I sometimes see old things I wrote and I cringe at some things. But on the other hand it shows how far my understanding has come. It also is a vivid reminder that (hopefully) sometime 10 years from now I'll be cringing at what I'm doing now... That will show growth and improvement.

I have had people toss things at me that they read years ago. Yup, I wrote it. And yes, I've been working on my sword stuff in particular full time ever since. And yes, today my understanding is (I hope) vastly richer, deeper and more nuanced. Hopefully 10 years hence it will be even better.

So damn the torpedoes -- full speed ahead!

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Old 11-23-2009, 10:41 AM   #7
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I should also add that putting my progression on display over all those years helped me earn the attention of people who would never have otherwise helped me along. Seeing I was serious, seeing I was focused, seeing I was willing to toss everything I thought I knew and rebuild from the ground up. Or as a good friend of mine says, I managed to prove that I had put in the sweat equity. And as such I wasn't just some casual wanker that comes along one year, vanishing the next. I was in it for the long haul and committed to getting wherever it took me.

That opens a lot of doors that normally stay tightly shut. Especially in a world as small as the one I'm working in.

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Old 11-23-2009, 12:00 PM   #8
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Keith, my experiences as well.

I actually HOPE that someone will challenge my comment, thoughts and declarations so I can see how well they stand up against a counterpoint!

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Old 11-23-2009, 12:13 PM   #9
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the interweb are great and there will never be anything bad about them remembering everything we ever do. er..
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Old 11-23-2009, 12:50 PM   #10
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Careful: Google never forgives...or forgets

Oh Oh !! Neither do ninjas!!!

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Old 08-03-2010, 10:45 AM   #11
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I have an admission of sorts to make.

When I first signed up for Aikiweb (lo, these many years ago? 2002? 2000? 1753?), I was young and dumb. Now that I'm slightly less young ( ), it occurs to me that I may have said some pretty dang stupid things in the course of a decade's worth of learning.

Unfortunately, Google doesn't account for youthful indiscretion. (And hey, who knew Google would be so...Orwellian a decade on?), so there's no point in begging for forgiveness from them

OTOH, please indulge me when I say: any truly remarkable idiocy posted under my screen-name (which is now wonderfully archived)? My bad.

A wizard did it

hi Bob,
Speaking of orwellian, that's nothing...check this out::
Google, CIA Invests in future of Web Monitoring

This is my favorite part
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The investment arms of the CIA and Google are both backing a company that monitors the web in real time — and says it uses that information to predict the future.

The company is called Recorded Future, and it scours tens of thousands of websites, blogs and Twitter accounts to find the relationships between people, organizations, actions and incidents — both present and still-to-come. In a white paper, the company says its temporal analytics engine "goes beyond search" by "looking at the ‘invisible links' between documents that talk about the same, or related, entities and events."

The idea is to figure out for each incident who was involved, where it happened and when it might go down. Recorded Future then plots that chatter, showing online "momentum" for any given event.

"The cool thing is, you can actually predict the curve, in many cases," says company CEO Christopher Ahlberg, a former Swedish Army Ranger with a PhD in computer science.

Read More http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010...#ixzz0vYrev8wS
i like the discussion at the bottom of that link too.
..something something minority report something something

Is this a good thing? Is that question moot? too late for pandora's box?
If this is published now; do we expect state-of-the-art to be more advanced? Is this good?
Is such a system foolproof? Is it possible to plant redherrings/false intel?

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Careful: Google never forgives...or forgets

Oh Oh !! Neither do ninjas!!!

David
No Google never ever forgets. And Now...it can remember forwards in time. Astonishing...but not completely surprising.
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Old 08-03-2010, 10:56 AM   #12
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YES!
all, please forgive all of my uninformed posts. it was a wizard.
from my past

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Old 08-03-2010, 12:14 PM   #13
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I wonder what the fall out will be in the politcal scene in 20 years.
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Old 08-03-2010, 01:27 PM   #14
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I wonder what the fall out will be in the politcal scene in 20 years.
While it is easier than ever to dig dirt on someone, it seems like it is much harder than ever to make stuff stick. If the old media doesn't want to carry the story anymore, it flops. I thought the oil spill coverage was going to go on indefinitely, and then overnight, it's gone. WikiLeaks stuff lasted a day at best and only seemed to be covered grudgingly. It's ammunition for the media to use at its own discretion, and its discretion seems pretty bad.

But maybe we're becoming more tolerant of past indiscretions too. Bill Clinton's "I didn't inhale" antics caused a firestorm, GWB's alcoholism and drug abuse got some concerned mentions but carried no momentum, and Barrack Obama's youthful marijuana and cocaine use almost didn't even register. Once the playbook gets repetitive, the tactics lose their effectiveness. Maybe there's hope?
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Old 08-03-2010, 02:41 PM   #15
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Wasn't it Churchill that said something like: [i]it's better to remain silent and have people think you a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
I had a reply here but I'm going to observe that advice (usually attributed to Mark Twain or Abraham Lincoln).
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Old 08-09-2010, 06:56 PM   #16
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I'm always correct. It's reality that keeps changing.

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