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Old 06-24-2010, 09:17 PM   #1
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Gozo Shioda - back or spine injury?

I apologize in advance for starting a thread of such low content, but I've researched this a bunch and can't find an answer.

Does anyone know if Shioda Sensei had some sort of back or spine injury. It has been nagging at me that he did at some point in his life but my Google queries are not producing any results. I have no idea why I have the idea he did in my head, but its been bothering me for months.

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Old 06-25-2010, 04:14 PM   #2
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I apologize in advance for starting a thread of such low content, but I've researched this a bunch and can't find an answer.

Does anyone know if Shioda Sensei had some sort of back or spine injury. It has been nagging at me that he did at some point in his life but my Google queries are not producing any results. I have no idea why I have the idea he did in my head, but its been bothering me for months.

Thanks for any help/response!

Osu!
Hi Adam,

To my knowledge, I never heard that Shioda had back problems. I read through his book Aikido Shugyo and did a little research on-line but I have not found anything.

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Old 06-25-2010, 05:20 PM   #3
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Re: Gozo Shioda - back or spine injury?

Same here, not sure why I am thinking this. Thanks for the response.

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Old 06-26-2010, 10:52 AM   #4
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I think you might be mixing a story up. The story is as printed in black belt magazine oct 76 issue, that Gozo was passing around the story that Tohei fell down a flight of stairs while drunk injuring his back. Which turns out to be a true story. The doctors said the injury would most likely end Tohei's aikido career. That's the short version.

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Old 06-26-2010, 06:26 PM   #5
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I think you might be mixing a story up. The story is as printed in black belt magazine oct 76 issue, that Gozo was passing around the story that Tohei fell down a flight of stairs while drunk injuring his back. Which turns out to be a true story. The doctors said the injury would most likely end Tohei's aikido career. That's the short version.
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Old 06-26-2010, 09:57 PM   #6
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I think you might be mixing a story up. The story is as printed in black belt magazine oct 76 issue, that Gozo was passing around the story that Tohei fell down a flight of stairs while drunk injuring his back. Which turns out to be a true story. The doctors said the injury would most likely end Tohei's aikido career. That's the short version.
Lol, awesome story! That's not what I was thinking though....I was thinking he hurt his back in some Judo related incident. However, I am leaning towards the conclusion that I am crazy. Thanks for the Tohei story though, very interesting.

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Old 06-27-2010, 03:39 AM   #7
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Even more interesting is that his students used kiatsu to heal Tohei's back and got him on his feet in no time at all... ok a bit of time.

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Old 06-27-2010, 05:37 AM   #8
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Hey Adam,

I am pretty sure Blok Sensei spoke how Shioda Sensei suffered a cracked vertebrate later in life, and how it affected his posture by forcing him to lean forward while executing techniques. But that is only hearsay I have heard while being shown the autographed posters in the stairway of the Chudokan.

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Old 06-27-2010, 08:17 PM   #9
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Hey Adam,

I am pretty sure Blok Sensei spoke how Shioda Sensei suffered a cracked vertebrate later in life, and how it affected his posture by forcing him to lean forward while executing techniques. But that is only hearsay I have heard while being shown the autographed posters in the stairway of the Chudokan.
Hi Shawn,

You mean this posture?

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Old 06-28-2010, 06:29 AM   #10
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You mean this posture?

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Old 06-28-2010, 11:10 AM   #11
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Re: Gozo Shioda - back or spine injury?

I know he picture Shawn is speaking of...its a promo from a demonstration or seminar.

David, that thumbnail is really small so I can't quite make it out. Is that Sensei Robert Mustard by any chance?

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Old 06-28-2010, 11:41 AM   #12
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Re: Gozo Shioda - back or spine injury?

I honestly don't know, but I do know Chiba Sensei hurt his back. That is why his students take ukemi the way they do.

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Old 06-28-2010, 12:18 PM   #13
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I imagine most people that have been training for 30+ years have some sort of injury! Probably one of the most amazing things I've heard in professionals who do dangerous and strenuous physical activity is that the professional skateboarder, Tony Hawk, has yet to break a bone in his 20+ years of skateboarding.

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Probably one of the most amazing things I've heard in professionals who do dangerous and strenuous physical activity is that the professional skateboarder, Tony Hawk, has yet to break a bone in his 20+ years of skateboarding.
The reason it is so amazing is that it is untrue... In 2003, for instance, Hawk broke his pelvis, thumb, and fractured his skull (not to mention the concussion that went along with that) in a single fall. Regardless of skill, there is always risk, and the law of averages usually catches up. (Apologies for the thread drift... )

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Old 06-28-2010, 02:33 PM   #15
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Ah, hadn't heard that. I haven't been involved in skateboarding sine 2001 or so. Well, up to that point it had been 20+ years before breaking something.

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Ah, hadn't heard that. I haven't been involved in skateboarding sine 2001 or so. Well, up to that point it had been 20+ years before breaking something.
No problem... Just wanted to set the record straight, and to illustrate that nobody is immune to injury, given enough opportunity. Now, we'll return you to your regularly-scheduled programming...
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David, where did you get that photo from? Can you post the link?
Hi Rabih,

Here's a bigger image. Except for Gozo Shioda, we don't see O Sensei or other pre-War Kobukan students having that posture. Perhaps, the story abot Shioda having a back injury is plausible

For link, just google "Yoshinkan kamae" image.

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Hi Rabih,

Here's a bigger image. Except for Gozo Shioda, we don't see O Sensei or other pre-War Kobukan students having that posture. Perhaps, the story abot Shioda having a back injury is plausible

For link, just google "Yoshinkan kamae" image.

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David, that thumbnail is really small so I can't quite make it out. Is that Sensei Robert Mustard by any chance?
No, That is Alister Thompson.

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Osu! Thank you Kimeda Sensei, hope everything went really well at the anniversary celebration.

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