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02-18-2010, 08:51 AM
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Username: felipe_3
Dojo: Kynsei Ryu
Location: Montecristi
Join Date: Feb 2010
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A senpai, the rank
what rank should have a senpai in aikido??
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02-18-2010, 09:17 AM
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Username: Fred Little
Dojo: Kokumo Dojo/Aikido@NJIT
Location: New York
Join Date: Apr 2001
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Re: A senpai, the rank
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Felipe Gomez wrote:
what rank should have a senpai in aikido??
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Strictly speaking, anyone who started before you did is your sempai, without reference to rank.
That said, as Dr. Goldsbury has explained in a number of different connections, much of what is associated with the sempai/kohai system is unique to university clubs in Japan and may have limited applicability to other types of aikido groups, both in Japan and elsewhere.
Hope this helps.
Best,
FL
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02-18-2010, 10:32 AM
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Username: felipe_3
Dojo: Kynsei Ryu
Location: Montecristi
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Re: A senpai, the rank
ok thanks
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02-18-2010, 12:06 PM
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Username: Dan Rubin
Dojo: Boulder Aikikai
Location: Denver, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
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Re: A senpai, the rank
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Fred Little wrote:
Strictly speaking, anyone who started before you did is your sempai, without reference to rank.
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Is it anyone who began studying aikido before you did, or is it anyone who began studying aikido at your dojo before you did?
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02-18-2010, 02:05 PM
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Username: Fred Little
Dojo: Kokumo Dojo/Aikido@NJIT
Location: New York
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Re: A senpai, the rank
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Dan Rubin wrote:
Is it anyone who began studying aikido before you did, or is it anyone who began studying aikido at your dojo before you did?
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Dan,
In the narrowest and most legalistic sense, I would say the latter.
That said, my experience is that narrowness and legalism isn't generally conducive to healthy or friendly personal relationships.
Best,
FL
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02-18-2010, 05:38 PM
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Username: dragonsun5
Join Date: Jan 2010
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Re: A senpai, the rank
My senpai are from 2nd year up. I started classes and the club in their second semester in September and there were 2 other guys their who were 5th kyu but also 1st years and I am allowed to call them by their last names with -san or without it. The second years up though I have to call them senpai. The second years will be testing for their 1st dan in two weeks and the 3rd years I don't think will be testing but they are at 1st dan. The 4th years and the ones who are graduating in March will be testing for their 2nd dan I believe.
It's not just used in martial arts clubs though but in everyday student life. My friends were telling me about it when I first came and it's to distinguish class year and honor the older student.
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02-18-2010, 10:17 PM
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Username: MikeLogan
Location: Rochester, NY
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 281

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Re: A senpai, the rank
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Fred Little wrote:
... my experience is that narrowness and legalism isn't generally conducive to healthy or friendly personal relationships.
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Though, and in fortunately rare situations, they can protect healthy and friendly personal relationships.
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