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Old 07-25-2009, 10:42 AM   #51
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Re: Meeting with Dan Harden

Dan & Fred - Thanks. Interesting.
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Old 07-25-2009, 10:43 AM   #52
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Re: Meeting with Dan Harden

I liked this:
"Why nobody won't show nothin' to nobody"

Fair Easy enough & easy to answer. First off, because it's a secret.

The why is usually just because.

Although there are sometimes other reasons. The truth is they've come
up with some very advanced stuff. There are many ways why it wouldn't
be considered prudent to simply spill the beans. Chief among these
reasons is the belief that keeping things secret provides an advantage
to the secret keepers. And for what it's worth, it definately does.
There is some very advanced stuff out there. It is not neccessarily
restricted to the Chinese. Even Japanese or other people who have been
allowed to learn these things generally see the point of continuing
the "secret". In some cases it's just a matter of respect. In some
cases it's because what works for you might not work for someone else.
There's a lot of method-based instruction and not a lot of theoretical
instruction. You're supposed to figure out what works well for you -
that's the most efficient path. And telling others about what works
for you generally won't help them.

Another reason is because spilling the beans too early would cut into
the financial advantage a master has over his student - generally
speaking the student must pay the master in some way, and if
everything was common knowledge this relationship would not exist.

So you see that many of the so-called secrets are really just the
student's own hard work. It isn't that you won't be told, it's that
you simply do not understand what is required of you so that you will
be told.

I have talked with people who have done martial arts for many, many
years, and when presented with information like this they often snap
back "I know how to train!!" Well the truth is, they don't. They know
how to train to get as far as they got and no further.

There is also a certain element of morality attached to such a system.
Masters often look for particular types of people. It is not always
the honest-but-impoverished student or the rich student that is
accepted. If the instructor has ulterior motives, he may choose not to
waste his time with the general population and focus on people who are
more likely to carry out his wishes.

All of this being said, the best way to learn the secrets of kungfu is
to be honest with yourself and others, cultivate a friendly, open
mind, work hard, and never give up. If you keep looking, you'll
probably discover what you seek... eventually.

My only contribution
1) Be extremely clear on what *it* is you seek.
2) If one thing becomes another, or becomes many; let it be clear in your mind.
Make your choices deliberately.


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