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Old 06-09-2009, 03:49 AM   #1
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Smile tenugui translation

Hi guys,

If it's not impolite to ask, would anyone be able to have a go at telling me what this says?

My kendo sensei gave it to me a while back, and I've no idea what it says.



Cheers,

andrew

p.s. I'm guessing this is where someone tells me I've got it upside down or back to front. Or indeed both...:S
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Old 06-09-2009, 09:00 AM   #2
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Re: tenugui translation

sorry! i just asked three japanese people who couldn't read it! it's highly stylized... oh wait, they are looking in kanji dictionaries and online... we're on the case until someone else cracks it...
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Old 06-09-2009, 09:20 AM   #3
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Re: tenugui translation

the kanji are:
岐不武文
read right to left:
bun bu fu gi

it means budo and literary things are not different.. bubunryodo is the same meaning...
http://japaneseshodo.com/index.php?m...ex&cPath=32_63
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Old 06-09-2009, 09:30 AM   #4
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Re: tenugui translation

It looks like the meaning of this phrase is very akin to 文武一 and 文武両道 in that it implies that there is no separation between the academic (文) and the martial (武) and that studying both is important and necessary.

Literally:
文 - letter, writings
武 - martial arts
不 - un-, non-, negative prefix
岐 - to fork, to separate

Hope that helps,

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Old 06-09-2009, 09:36 AM   #5
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Re: tenugui translation

Hey Andrew, did your teacher do the caligraphy? If so, that is an especially nice treasure...I'd frame it. Or whatever you are supposed to do with that kind of work.

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Old 06-09-2009, 04:05 PM   #6
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Re: tenugui translation

Hi guys,

Thanks for all the replies. The main reason I asked is that I was thinking of putting it up on my wall somehow but didn't want to unless I knew what it meant.
Definitely be doing that now. As soon as I work out the best way to do it.

Fairly sure he won't have done the calligraphy, but don't know anything about it really. Just thought it looked rather nice, more suited to my wall than getting sweaty under my bogu...

Anyone know what the vertical kanji say? My knowledge of Japanese is next to nothing...Reckon there's a do in there somewhere...

Cheers

andrew
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Old 06-09-2009, 10:38 PM   #7
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Re: tenugui translation

Quote:
Andrew Manson wrote: View Post
Anyone know what the vertical kanji say? My knowledge of Japanese is next to nothing...Reckon there's a do in there somewhere...

Cheers

andrew
It says "Shusuikan Kancho Kamata Kohei"

Probably penned by Kamata Kohei himself?

This is his dojo website:

http://mikiyado.jp/syusuikan/
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Old 06-10-2009, 11:14 AM   #8
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Re: tenugui translation

Aah, Kamada sensei is my teacher's teacher, and shusuikan is his dojo. So that makes sense...

Thanks,

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