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Old 08-02-2008, 07:54 AM   #26
Mark Uttech
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Re: What Is Love, Aikido Style

Onegaishimasu. Enlightenment is the wish to communicate. Babies do it; all of Nature does it. Morihei Ueshiba O Sensei did it too.

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Old 02-28-2009, 01:52 PM   #27
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Momentary thread revival ( i found an excerpt online. thusly inspired.....)

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Yea, me and about everyone one else in the world who is looking for it .
An most people :
Look for their cellphones while they're talking on them
Search for their car keys while they are in hand.
Panic because they can't find their sunglasses while they are sitting right on top of their head.

The point is, stop looking and you will discover that you already have it.

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Old 03-01-2009, 12:30 PM   #28
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Momentary thread revival ( i found an excerpt online. thusly inspired.....)

An most people :
Look for their cellphones while they're talking on them
Search for their car keys while they are in hand.
Panic because they can't find their sunglasses while they are sitting right on top of their head.

The point is, stop looking and you will discover that you already have it.

Best,
js
There's that Hidden in Plain Sight thing again! It's amazing to me how much in this world seems so deceptively simple. If we can just get past the whirring of our own minds we might get to simply enjoy it unpeturbed.

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Old 03-01-2009, 05:55 PM   #29
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There's that Hidden in Plain Sight thing again! It's amazing to me how much in this world seems so deceptively simple. If we can just get past the whirring of our own minds we might get to simply enjoy it unpeturbed.
Yeah, huh .

In between the hidden and the manifest is the divine. Or so I've heard.
Now, where are those keys?

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Old 03-06-2009, 06:37 PM   #30
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Is that like saying, "if it ain't simple, it simply ain't?"
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Old 03-07-2009, 09:49 AM   #31
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What I was getting at when I started this discussion was to look at what influenced the concept of love and where did it come from. What Japanese stuff O'Sensei took from to say that word and where did it come from. What type of love is it? But since that is a mountain of stuff to write here, I decided to take sum it up on the subject. Thinking all those details are not needed to get my point understood.

O'Sensei was greatly effected by war, and from it it changed his views on life from taking it to protecting it. Not an uncommon view of those who have seen war and it destruction of life. His new attitude like many others he wanted to share it. But I don't think O'Sensei understood how to get that message across the best way for other languages.

The word love, I believe is a poor translated word choice. Because it has too many meanings and definitions behind it. Compound that with that the idea behind the word love is coming from the language of Aikido. A language that borrows and is in the context of many different languages combined. Such as, Japanese, Budo, Omoto, Shinto and other things. All of them make up the Aikido language he created to communicate the ideas for Aikido. A very intentionally complex and abstract language indeed even for the Japanese. Even more difficult to understand with all the different meanings and definitions attached to the word love in all the other languages.

Though we have so many meanings for love in the west it is hard to figure which really applies. We know (or at least we hope) that we know it isn't the same as the type of love isn't romantic, or the affectionate kind. Or emotional state of being in, or other such things.

A better word to use for at least the English language instead of love, to get that view point that O'Sensei had,imo, is mercy, compassion, and conflict resolution. As awkward as it is, these combination of words are more precise and accurate to the experience and meaning of O'Sensei.

As difficult as the language of Aikido is in Japanese and even more when translated, it is not up to us to give our own meaning and definition to the word love in the context of Aikido. It is an injustice and stuff to Aikido and the message of O'Sensei. It is up to us to put the mental effort into bridge that translation gap rather that making O'Sensei's words fit the way we want them too so that they reflect our personal philosophy. When we do that stuff, it is a great disservice to the thing we love.

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Old 03-07-2009, 02:14 PM   #32
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Is that like saying, "if it ain't simple, it simply ain't?"
yes.

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Old 03-07-2009, 07:24 PM   #33
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Let me provide more information on what I mean my mercy, as it is my favorite definition as devilish as it is.

MERCY, n. An attribute beloved of detected offenders.
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