Any Insights into "Aikido Bujutsu"?

anyone have any insights on aikido bujutsu??
it seems to be a relative of traditional aikido but i cant seem to find much info about where it came from, ect....
i dunno, let me know if ya can plz...

Where did you come across the term?

Timothy Walters Kleinert wrote: Where did you come across the term?

there is a dojo in wisconsin where this is the form they practice.
http://local.yahoo.com/info-16824279...jutsu-kimberly

Timothy Walters Kleinert wrote: Where did you come across the term?

hey maybe this will help with the identification process.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VlPFc5dhOo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1O5K5KCXWM

it looks sorta like aikido but i cant find any reference to where or when it started....

Aikido bujutsu and aikibujutsu are likely to be substantially different. Aikido bujutsu sounds like the name of the dojo, rather than a style. So the videos are unlikely to be related. Why not go watch if it's close enough?

Regards,
Mark

Mark Gibbons wrote: Aikido bujutsu and aikibujutsu are likely to be substantially different. Aikido bujutsu sounds like the name of the dojo, rather than a style. So the videos are unlikely to be related. Why not go watch if it's close enough? Regards, Mark

hey mark,
i think you may be right, aikido bujutsu could be the name of the dojo despite the fact they are at the ymca now.
i have been to see them a few times and there techniques look identical to the first video i posted (not sure why the second is there, oops). i'm thinking the style might be just bujutsu or aikibujutsu or some such thing. i was just interested in getting some history but that oddly seems unlikely... thanks for the input....

"Aikido bujutsu" isn't a recognized branch of aikido, so as was said, it's probably just the dojo's name. Given the description---that it's a "relative" of aikido, rather than aikido itself---it's probably an independent school. So I can't really say anything without more info...

... buuuuut, the combo of "aikido" and "bujutsu" rubs me funny... Maybe I'm just being overly-sensitive, but it's fairly common for illegitimate schools to replace the "-do" ending and/or add some sort of "-jutsu" ending; based on the false understanding that "-jutsu" styles promote "combat effectiveness" and "-do" styles promote "spiritual development" (historically, there's no difference between "-do" and "-jutsu" styles).

And where did you get the description that it's a "relative of traditional aikido"? Is that something the teacher (or another official dojo representative) told you? Again that rubs me funny... See, there's no such thing as "traditional aikido"---the parent of aikido is a style called Daito-ryu. And the origins of Daito-ryu are murky, so at this point, no style can claim to be a "relative" of Daito-ryu. But even if "traditional aikido" just means aikido as taught by the founder, Ueshiba, that's also funny. Being a "relative" of Ueshiba's aikido would seem to imply it's a sibling art, a descendant of Daito-ryu. And the only other known descendant of Daito-ryu is a small style called Yanagi-ryu or Yoshida-ryu (the name was recently updated).

But again, I may just be over-thinking this. I really, honest, can't make any sort of judgement without more info.

relative of aikido is just some term i came up with to ease the process of describing what i see. other than that, i have little or no opinion on what they call it. i was just interested in some history...

yeah it does seem a bit contradictory... 'do' versus 'jutsu'... self improvement versus self preservation...

at any rate, i believe bujutsu refers to warrior arts, and aikido is...what it is... not a warrior art...

haven't seen the videos. dang firewalls

finally a good answer.
after seeing more bujutsu videos i agree, "do" simply does not fit...
might be fun, but not in the aikikai sorta way...

Eric LeCaptain wrote: hey maybe this will help with the identification process. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VlPFc5dhOo

In the first part of that video - up to :56 - they're practicing (at least to some degree) Nishio Aikido (which does have a following in Poland.)

did a little search and found this previous thread...

http://www.aikiweb.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1835

still sounds a little dubious...

RE: the youtube posted earlier, so the beginning of the video looks pretty much aikikai, and then what's with the guys in the black gi...

Dan Richards wrote: In the first part of that video - up to :56 - they're practicing (at least to some degree) Nishio Aikido (which does have a following in Poland.)

nishio aikido? cant say i have ever came across that term before. do you have any idea where it originated?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoji_Nishio