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05-04-2008, 02:07 PM
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Re: Daito Ryu, Yoshinkan, Taichi & Secrets
Oh gosh. That's all over the map, Dan.
Everyone is different. you have each persons talent, brains, and then how much they actually train. I pay more attention to me than to them. I don't teach. I just give them a place to train and work on their own shit. They own their own progress, I may offer to help where they aren't getting something or other, but make no mistake I have no art I am representing or vested interest in growing. They're on their own. If I ever did decide to teach I would change things completely. In the mean time I just crack jokes and have fun while working on my own shit, with others along for the ride. I can't tell you how many times over the years I would get up in front of a room full of people and say "We're going to work on some stuff tonight that I can't do. Don't ask me to help, I can't do it either." Newer folks would look at each other an scratch their heads. Its remains a standing joke here that when someone asks me how to do something I say "I dunno I can't do it either."
Teaching was never on my top priority list, wasn't even in my radar. Maybe its a coincidence but it appears that people who train here seem to get something or other after a year, with a real jump happening about three or four years in. I got a 26 yr old who goes out to MMA schools now and then and who handles visitors with ease. But maybe that's just the country air.
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05-04-2008, 09:40 PM
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Re: Daito Ryu, Yoshinkan, Taichi & Secrets
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Dan Harden wrote:
Oh gosh. That's all over the map, Dan.
Everyone is different. you have each persons talent, brains, and then how much they actually train. I pay more attention to me than to them. I don't teach. I just give them a place to train and work on their own shit. They own their own progress, I may offer to help where they aren't getting something or other, but make no mistake I have no art I am representing or vested interest in growing. They're on their own. If I ever did decide to teach I would change things completely. In the mean time I just crack jokes and have fun while working on my own shit, with others along for the ride. I can't tell you how many times over the years I would get up in front of a room full of people and say "We're going to work on some stuff tonight that I can't do. Don't ask me to help, I can't do it either." Newer folks would look at each other an scratch their heads. Its remains a standing joke here that when someone asks me how to do something I say "I dunno I can't do it either."
Teaching was never on my top priority list, wasn't even in my radar. Maybe its a coincidence but it appears that people who train here seem to get something or other after a year, with a real jump happening about three or four years in. I got a 26 yr old who goes out to MMA schools now and then and who handles visitors with ease. But maybe that's just the country air.
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Dan,
Fair enough, but where did you learn this stuff? My point is that unless you happen to have someone nearby you can visit with fairly frequently, it sounds like it would be pretty hard to get far. There don't seem to be a lot of guys running around teaching this stuff, at least not openly. I guess my question is, since most of the training is solo, how many times per year minimum would it be necessary to visit someone who knows what he's doing such that your solo practice could be in the right ballpark? I realize everyone is different, but assuming reasonable talent and coordination.
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05-05-2008, 08:01 AM
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Re: Daito Ryu, Yoshinkan, Taichi & Secrets
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Dan Harden wrote:
I can't tell you how many times over the years I would get up in front of a room full of people and say "We're going to work on some stuff tonight that I can't do. Don't ask me to help, I can't do it either."
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LOL! That's a lot like what I said after coming back from training with you. "Hey, we're going to work on some stuff that I can't do, but it's really amazing when you can do it." I'm really thankful that I had some people training with me who went along with no proof at all that what I was explaining could be done. They trained with me on just what I was telling them.
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Dan Harden wrote:
Maybe its a coincidence but it appears that people who train here seem to get something or other after a year, with a real jump happening about three or four years in.
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Hmm ... yeah, I think I made a jump about a year into things. Least to me it seems like a small jump. Can't wait for the next few to see how things progress.
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