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Old 12-18-2007, 10:02 PM   #1
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Question Exercises?

Embarrassing to say , I just started Aikido. After my lessons, the next day my forearms, thighs and buttocks were in major pain >_>.

I was wondering, are there any simple exercises to help with it <_< as my physique is weaker in those areas.

Or even any exercises to help when not training in Aikido?

Many Thanks.
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Old 12-19-2007, 12:54 AM   #2
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Re: Exercises?

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Embarrassing to say , I just started Aikido. After my lessons, the next day my forearms, thighs and buttocks were in major pain >_>.

I was wondering, are there any simple exercises to help with it <_< as my physique is weaker in those areas.

Or even any exercises to help when not training in Aikido?

Many Thanks.
Pay some money and ask a professional masseuse to give you a good body massage.

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Old 12-19-2007, 02:42 AM   #3
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Re: Exercises?

Not an expert, but from my own experiance:

For the moment, any light excersise should help you to feel better. Take a short walk, flip your arms a little.

Nothing fast, nothing strong. Just light movement to make your blood flow better. It should feel like a light warm up.

Any excersise you will start now, to strenthen those muscles, would make you feel more pain first, due to the increase of strain on those area.

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Old 12-19-2007, 03:06 AM   #4
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Re: Exercises?

Just walk a little and stretch a little every day. Your body is experiencing activity to which it is not accustomed. Given a little time, it will adjust. Be patient. And do not be embarrassed that you are just starting. We all "just started" at one time or another.
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Old 12-19-2007, 04:13 AM   #5
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Re: Exercises?

Okay, thanks all ^_^
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Old 12-19-2007, 06:09 AM   #6
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Re: Exercises?

Yep, welcome to origami with people, learning to blend and become one with the mat.

If what you are feeling is just the aches of doing something new, then relax and train on. You body will become accustomed to the activity.

General conditioning is always a great idea.

Consult professionals if you feel you are injured.

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Old 12-19-2007, 09:13 AM   #7
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Re: Exercises?

Try some yoga on the days you don't do aikido. Ashtanga seems to be pretty vigorous.

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Old 12-19-2007, 09:18 AM   #8
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Try some yoga on the days you don't do aikido. Ashtanga seems to be pretty vigorous.

Best,
Ron
Yoga? I thought you Yoshinkan-ers were hard style? Yoga sounds more aiki-bunny type exercising. (Just Kidding!)

Seriously, I find stretching does help some. Haven't tried Yoga, but besides Ron, other people have also suggested it. Seems to be a good suggestion.

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Old 12-19-2007, 09:25 AM   #9
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Re: Exercises?

FWIW I've long been a proponent of secondary exercise outside the dojo. I don't go to the dojo to "get in shape", I go to learn Aikido. We do some warmups which really helps, but I find that time on the elliptical along with light weight training, core exercises and light stretching have gone a long way to keep me feeling strong.

As I hit my mid-40's I also managed to get a back injury along with some other nagging problems. Finally I took someone else's advice and found a professional masseuse. The first month I went about weekly then tapered back to every other week. I wish I could afford to do it weekly but monthly will probably do. For me it is partly what I do for a living being hunched over and straining on things all day. My shoulders, back and neck take a beating and going to Aikido often helps me loosen up. But I'm finding now that I need to do more to stay healthy. And massage has been a god-send lately. Not to mention the fact that as a stress relief it is also fantastic.

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Old 12-19-2007, 11:59 AM   #10
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Hey Keith,

I'll second the massage recommendation...definately worth while!

B,
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Old 12-19-2007, 12:25 PM   #11
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Massages - Thirded, they rock and make a huge difference.

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Old 12-19-2007, 01:36 PM   #12
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Massages - Thirded, they rock and make a huge difference.
you don't usually see a massage table setup at the seminars. you would thought that would be a good place to make some money. you could even make some deal with the teaching sensei, if said sensei would spent half of the seminar on lots of airborne techniques, then said sensei would get 30% of the profit. one man's pain is another man's opportunity. one man's Do is another man's Dough.
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Old 12-19-2007, 02:04 PM   #13
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I highly recommend adding stretching and mild strength training to any physical activity.

Always get properly warmed up before stretching or any activity that is physical. Also always do a full cool down. This will reduce injury to your body.

And the reason for the strength training is that stronger muscles are less prone to injury. This does not mean body building, but strength training. I never really took this all that seriously, but my doctor said one of the main reasons for my shoulder injury was that I was focused on flexibility without doing the proper strength exercises to keep my shoulder muscles strong enough to stabilize my shoulder.

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Old 12-20-2007, 09:31 PM   #14
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Re: Exercises?

I'd know that many professional athletes incorporate massage therapy as part of their recovery program.

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Old 12-23-2007, 03:00 AM   #15
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... For me it is partly what I do for a living being hunched over and straining on things all day.
Oh please ... enlighten us!
I'm finding it so hard to resist some smutty entendre.

Back on topic ;
Hey Andy, that Aikido WAS the exercise.
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Old 12-23-2007, 06:57 AM   #16
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Re: Exercises?

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FWIW I've long been a proponent of secondary exercise outside the dojo. I don't go to the dojo to "get in shape", I go to learn Aikido. We do some warmups which really helps, but I find that time on the elliptical along with light weight training, core exercises and light stretching have gone a long way to keep me feeling strong.
Keith hit the nail on the head. I also cross-train, for the same reasons. I find that endurance aerobic training has made the most fundamental improvement to my Aikido. I used to hit the weights pretty hard, and while I didn't lose flexibility, my mat time/injury ratio kept going the wrong way. When I backed off the weights some, things got better, so I try to keep from getting too pumped up. (Don't misinterpret me here, I have never come close to resembling a bodybuilder).

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Old 12-28-2007, 04:54 PM   #17
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Re: Exercises?

Hi. I am also new, been training (almost) two months. I have found that the stretches that we do at the start of class are very helpful to soothe sore muscles.

Even in two months, I am noticing that my own soreness is getting a bit less and certain things are becoming easier for me to do. So hang in there!
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Old 12-29-2007, 12:48 PM   #18
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Embarrassing to say , I just started Aikido. After my lessons, the next day my forearms, thighs and buttocks were in major pain >_>.

I was wondering, are there any simple exercises to help with it <_< as my physique is weaker in those areas.

Or even any exercises to help when not training in Aikido?

Many Thanks.
I haven't read any of the replies yet so sorry if this is repetitive, but I think the key in the beginning is to do as much mild activity as possible: regular, mild exercise like walking or swimming.

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Old 12-29-2007, 04:31 PM   #19
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Re: Exercises?

[quote=Andy Ngo;196109]Embarrassing to say , I just started Aikido. After my lessons, the next day my forearms, thighs and buttocks were in major pain >_>.

I was wondering, are there any simple exercises to help with it

Stretching and resting is the best thing you can do between your classes, if you dont give your body time to heal from all the wear and tear of aikido it can cause major damage, so just relax on your free time, dont worry aikido will develop you muscles and all the pain will go away.

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