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Old 12-21-2007, 04:08 PM   #76
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Re: Christianity and Aikido??

What, no snappy comebacks?
Well, call me.. "The Thread Killer!"


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Old 12-22-2007, 02:14 AM   #77
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Referring to Christianity starting off in Asia question/comment(s): If you read the Bible, especially the book Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, there are verses that specifically state that Jesus was a well known local. There are references of were he followed Jewish customs and no indication that he traveled abroad except for Egypt. (Matt. Chapter 2, verses 13-18) If you read the Gospels carefully and with patience, you will see the actions, teaching, and wisdom of Jesus reflects the wisdom, discipline, and authority of the Jewish Bible. Jesus also criticizes the local religious leaders on how they have repeatedly abused the system of worship and government that their God had given them. All of Jesus's teachings heavily reflects ancient and contemporary wisdom of the Jewish culture and civilization.
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Old 12-22-2007, 05:00 AM   #78
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That still doesn't negate the fact that Israel (or Palestine, or Canaan, or whatever it was called back then) is (and was) geographically located in southwest Asia. Hence, Jewish culture and civilisation is, in terms of geographic origin, an Asian culture and civilisation, and Alex Megann's statement that Christianity originated in Asia is in fact, entirely correct.

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Old 12-22-2007, 10:41 AM   #79
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That still doesn't negate the fact that Israel (or Palestine, or Canaan, or whatever it was called back then) is (and was) geographically located in southwest Asia. Hence, Jewish culture and civilisation is, in terms of geographic origin, an Asian culture and civilisation, and Alex Megann's statement that Christianity originated in Asia is in fact, entirely correct.
Counting coup for rhetorical blunders is all in good fun, but really ...

For the love of Pete -- Aikido is a Japanese martial art now practiced predominantly by people outside of Japan. France and the United States EACH have more Aikido practitioners than all of Japan . Does that geographic observation say anything meaningful about Aikido as an art ?

Judaism was exiled in Egypt, then Iraq, then thoroughly Hellenized by the time of Christ, then exiled into Europe by the Roman Empire -- does that make it "Western" or "Eastern," Asian, African or European? Buddhism was Hellenized in passing through Greek Bactria in Afghanistan, before it ever reached either China or Japan, does that make it less Eastern or Asian? While we're talking about continued Greek influence in Asia -- does that make Russian Orthodoxy an "Asian" religion?

There is no point to this aspect of the discussion.

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Old 12-22-2007, 11:50 AM   #80
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Or could it be that the Bethlehem and Nazareth being referred to are the towns in Pennsylvania?

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Old 12-22-2007, 10:18 PM   #81
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Or could it be that the Bethlehem and Nazareth being referred to are the towns in Pennsylvania?
Nah. Wilkes-Barre. That's where you'll find some serious budo.

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