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Old 07-03-2007, 06:57 AM   #26
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Re: Poll: If a 50 year old person came into your aikido dojo and said that they would

At almost 57, I would have to say, "Welcome youngster, let me show you how to bow in."

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Old 07-03-2007, 07:52 AM   #27
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Re: Poll: If a 50 year old person came into your aikido dojo and said that they would

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At almost 57, I would have to say, "Welcome youngster, let me show you how to bow in."
Nice Lynn.
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Old 07-03-2007, 12:49 PM   #28
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Re: Poll: If a 50 year old person came into your aikido dojo and said that they would

And note the actual wording of the questin. It is not "Become a shihan" ,it's "Study to become a shihan" and essentially, we are all doing that, whether we ever chose to even become Instructors.

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Old 07-03-2007, 01:08 PM   #29
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Re: Poll: If a 50 year old person came into your aikido dojo and said that they would

So long as their goal wasn't to take Aikido and use it to oppress others, I would be encouraging regardless of a person's age. I would be even more so in that they are 50 and have set such high goals for themselves (no matter how seemingly unrealistic they might seem to some) --- if they are highly determined and willing to put in the effort and practice that it takes to work towards that goal, even if they don't quite get there, I would be behind them one hundred percent every step of the way. "Shoot for the moon. Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars."

It might also be worth quoting something I have posted on my office wall at work:

"We must not allow other people's limited perceptions to define us." --- Virginia Satir

Far be it from me to discourage another from their dream if they're willing to work for it.

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Old 11-16-2007, 10:34 AM   #30
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Re: Poll: If a 50 year old person came into your aikido dojo and said that they would

Inaba Shihan told me a story once of a man who joined Kobayashi Dojo in Japan when he was in his 60s. He was up to 7 dan 20 years later.

I could have the details wrong, but the point of the story was that age is not a barrier if you have the motivation.
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Old 11-16-2007, 01:58 PM   #31
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Re: Poll: If a 50 year old person came into your aikido dojo and said that they would

Well, Norio "Mike" Mamura Sensei from the Milwaukee Aikido Club started aikido at the age of 47 and advanced to 6th dan well before he passed away at the age of 82 in 2000. By today's standards he would most likely have been named a Shihan within the USAF.

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Old 11-16-2007, 04:19 PM   #32
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Re: Poll: If a 50 year old person came into your aikido dojo and said that they would

One of the 5th dan at my dojo is now 69 and started aikido in 1986 at the age of 48ish. When I discovered this fact my jaw hit the floor, since he moves like a man half his age and his aikido is particularly swift and powerful (he's always in our blind spots like a ninja; when he teaches he always says "you have to disappear"). I seriously thought he was in his late forties or early fifties.


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Old 11-16-2007, 06:00 PM   #33
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Re: Poll: If a 50 year old person came into your aikido dojo and said that they would

Well, as we don't have Shihan in among any of the wonderful non-Japanese senior teachers I have trained with over the years, I would firstly explain that I couldn't see the Yoshinkan bestowing that title in a hurry as there are quite a few ahead in the queue!

Actually, I would have to add to the cries that this is the wrong reason to train, as to train to a goal, usually means that people give up when they get there - mind you they wouldn't get there (so maybe they would give up when they realise?)!!!!!

It is that old story:

"Sensei, how long will it take me to get to Black Belt?"

"10 Years!"

"How about if I work twice as hard?"

"20 Years!"

"Sensei, I say I will work harder and you say it will take longer?"

"With one eye on the goal there can be only one eye on the path!"

Or something like that!

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Old 11-16-2007, 06:01 PM   #34
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Re: Poll: If a 50 year old person came into your aikido dojo and said that they would

What is a Shihan anyway?


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Old 11-17-2007, 03:00 PM   #35
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Re: Poll: If a 50 year old person came into your aikido dojo and said that they would

From the sources I have read, shihan means "master instructor."
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Old 11-18-2007, 11:24 AM   #36
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Re: Poll: If a 50 year old person came into your aikido dojo and said that they would

Teacher of teachers is the one that I've heard mostly, but whar does it really mean? It isn't to do wih rank, but people are awarded the title in some organisations.

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Old 11-19-2007, 12:25 AM   #37
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Re: Poll: If a 50 year old person came into your aikido dojo and said that they would

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What would you do if a 50 year old Shihan came into you dojo and wanted to take part in a beginners class?
We say "of course" and ask he he or she would like to teach. Friday night is our Introduction to Aikido class and on one occasion a shihan flew in for a weekend seminar, dropped by the dojo to say hello, and ended up teaching. It seemed he really enjoyed showing people how to do their first low forward roll and it was a great class.

I don't think we have had an official shihan on the mat as a student in the beginners' class though we have had 5th dan students including one that was shortly afterwards promoted to 6th dan meaning that we must have taught the right stuff.
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Old 11-19-2007, 02:06 PM   #38
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Re: Poll: If a 50 year old person came into your aikido dojo and said that they would

There are shihan in the Yoshinkan, including non-japanese. Amos Parker has a shihan certificate from Shioda Kancho.

I think the Yoshinkan is similar to Aikikai, in that for a while the title was kind of associated with the hombu dojo...the only people who really spoke of it were those who were of high rank and who taught at the hombu, or had their own major dojo in Japan.

I think the usage has drifted back and forth over the years...maybe Spike Kimeda can fill us in on the "true" usage. He spent many years at hombu.

SPIKE!!!!!

Best,
Ron (the above are just my impressions...not statements of fact, except for Amos Parker's cert)

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