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Old 10-14-2007, 03:17 PM   #1
Join Date: Aug 2007
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Noob questions

1. Why does the other hand that is not doing anything (at least it seems so) in the technique has to be doing something? You know why the hand still has to keep its fingers up? Damn I can not believe I did not found a picture of this. Oh well then it would be too easy to understand my question.

2. How to train kiai? And does it bamboozel a 5 kyu guy and a 10 dan superdude equally well?
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Old 10-14-2007, 03:51 PM   #2
Dojo: Port Talbot Dojo
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Re: Noob questions

I am told that the hand that does not do anything (like a morote dori attack) does something because you imagine somebody holding onto that hand. What I am saying is that if you look at ryote dori techniques for example, if you only just move one of your hands. Then doing the technique properly is fairly difficult because you ain't properly utilising your both hands. So what I think I am saying is that it helps to develop overall techniques with the usage of the hand which is not in use (I think??)
Kiai is something in my opinion, that can only be developed with lots of practice. Trying to train your diaphragm to "shout" the sound out instead of your upper chest, is very difficult. Its something which will only come with time, I have trained with people who have veery soft kiais and some who have very powerful kiais.
Hope this helps, some of it may be muddled since I myself are trying to work on this.
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Old 10-15-2007, 05:06 AM   #3
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Re: Noob questions

Your stance and movements are adapted from sword stance and movements. Your hands are holding an imaginary sword with two hands, the movements of your hands are imaginary cuts with your imaginary sword. This helps you maintain balance and posture throughout the movement.


Trust only movement. Life happens at the level of events not of words. Trust movement. --Alfred Adler
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Old 10-15-2007, 05:48 AM   #4
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Dojo: Roswell Budokan, Kyushinkan (AWA)
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
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Re: Noob questions

Think of where your opposite shoulder and hip are when you do and don't use the "do nothing" hand. When you commit the "other" hand appropriately your center should be facing the technique and your power will be enlisted.

Sometimes the "do nothing" hand is there also as back up. To switch technique or to add atemi.

Good luck, and don't sweat the small stuff.

Derek Duval
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Old 10-15-2007, 06:23 AM   #5
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Re: Noob questions

If the arm is limp at your side then the concentration of energy will be utilized by only your arm (where you are the weakest). If you use your free arm as if you are grabbed then you are placing the power of your center to the technique and gaining the power of your whole body where you are strongest.
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Old 10-15-2007, 07:00 AM   #6
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Dojo: Shirokan Dojo / Tel Aviv Israel
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Re: Noob questions

As Derek explained, a technique is done mostly with the body, and much less with your hands. Most people stop using their body unless they are required to use both hands, hence the methodology of teaching with both hands.
Further, it is a good habit for more dynamic situations, in which several technical options exist and you should select the most appropriate one. Having just one hand in place might limit your selection or make you miss the timing (until the second hand gets there).

As far as Kiai, we don't put any emphasis on them, so I am not the right person to advise. I would further doubt it has a significant effect on someone who feels very confident in his ability compared to you (regardless of rank), while even a silent Kiai and threatening movement may have a huge effect in the opposite situation.

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Old 10-15-2007, 04:24 PM   #7
Dojo: Ponca Aikikai
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Re: Noob questions

I see an other purpose in not letting the "do nothing" hand wander around. True that it helps with body posture and I found myself losing the correct posture of my shoulders/torso everytime I forget to use the second hand.
But also think how many reaction Uke can have and the chances you make a mistake in doing a technique. The second hand will be there to cover for an incoming punch/kick. Hanging on your side would leave you too open to certain reactions.

As per kiai I have not a clue. We don't use it.
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