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Old 03-19-2002, 09:48 PM   #26
Dojo: Aikikai Dobunkan/ Icho Ryu Aikijujutsu
Location: Indiana
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 247
Please bore us with details! My job is making me nutz!! (besides, this is actually a really good thread, and you gotta figure there's other frustrated people too.
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Old 03-19-2002, 11:33 PM   #27
Location: Western Australia
Join Date: Sep 2001
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Hello Again Shadow

I forgot to give you this URL about training difficulties. It helped me to at least start to identify what I needed to do and to help me feel better about myself. Hope its of use to you too.


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Old 03-20-2002, 04:36 AM   #28
Johan Tibell
Dojo: Aikido Dojo Gamlestaden
Location: Gothenburg, Sweden
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 56
IMHO hard training and being honest with oneself will in the end make you a good (even great) martial artist.

Read my signature...

I'm too you to be philosofical, lets practice!

- Johan

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Into daily technical training
To approach the many through a single principle
This is "The Way of the Fighting Man"
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Old 03-21-2002, 04:36 AM   #29
Dojo: Institute of Aikido Australia
Location: Perth
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 48
With regard to frustration while training...after many years of training, I have learned a very useful technique: the blank look. Feeling frustrated is bad enough already, it doesn't help to spread that feeling round the dojo (or "share the pain" as a friend of mine would say). So when I get frustrated because I'm having trouble with techniques, or when someone helpfully tells me something that I don't agree with or knew already, or when a higher grade demonstrates a technique to me so many times that I don't get a chance to practice it...I practice THE BLANK LOOK!

But seriously, frustrations pass. The best we can do is to just keep trying. Sometimes when I'm feeling that I'm stuffing everything up, I try to focus on one (just one at a time) of the general principles: I'll think about being centred, extending ki, keeping my hands soft but with meaning, being relaxed but ready, unbendable arm, large circles - small circles...there's plenty more...it seems to help to disengage from the particulars of what I'm trying to do and think generally. If it doesn't actually improve my technique immediately, it t least stops me from dwelling on how frustrated I feel and how crap I am

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Old 03-21-2002, 06:33 PM   #30
Dojo: Aikikai Dobunkan/ Icho Ryu Aikijujutsu
Location: Indiana
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awww....c'mon...sharing the pain is what martial arts are all about
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Old 03-23-2002, 07:31 AM   #31
Phil Gallant
Dojo: shugyo dojo toronto
Location: Canada
Join Date: Mar 2002
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I've done 20 classes thus far and have a long way to go but I experienced frustration my 10th class. I just could not get the movements or the steps to this particular defense! This ate me up inside & tied me in knots for a couple of days! However, a few classes later we were practicing the same movement and I was better able to understand and actually accomplished the said task at least once and I was happy and unfrustrated again! I say just stick with it. No one is perfect and we must practice to become as perfect as we can.

the longest journey begins with a simple step and a single step is a journey into itself.
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Old 03-24-2002, 06:50 PM   #32
Dojo: Aikikai Dobunkan/ Icho Ryu Aikijujutsu
Location: Indiana
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but I experienced frustration my 10th class.
Lucky you...I was going nuts after my second hour on the first day.

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Old 03-26-2002, 10:07 AM   #33
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Originally posted by gi_grrl
...I practice THE BLANK LOOK!
Interesting, but dangerous.
I seem to be such a natural talent for the blank look that sometimes people that havent trained with me before think that I am "mentally challenged".

Erik Jurrien Menzel
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