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Old 01-11-2007, 09:42 PM   #51
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Re: What happens AFTER the pin?

George S. Ledyard wrote:
...<snip>...A solid koshinage is probably also a good tool since it is a fight ender for most folks if not done on a mat in a dojo.

Good post. Speaking of koshi-nage, in my first ever randori with a judo-ka he got me with a very quick morote-seoi nage. I flip over his shoulder and landed directly on my butt. The impact on the mat stunned me.. and my whole lower body went numb and had to be carried out to the side for Kappo treatment. I felt for myself, what a fight ender actually meant. And that throw was done on a mat... imagine the consequences of throwing like that on tarmac.


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Old 01-17-2007, 09:24 AM   #52
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Re: What happens AFTER the pin?

What happens after the pin? That is a good question...

I used a pin in a real life situation. The guy did not get up, I walked out of the night club and he did not follow, nor did any of his friends.

I guess I got lucky.

I think a physcologist would be best to answer this question. Because the idea is not to just pin the person, but to subdue the attack on a mental level. Maybe you don't even have to use a pin to do that.

Reading, "The Art of War," by Sun Tsu helps understand this point very clearly.

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