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Old 10-23-2006, 03:22 AM   #1
Michael Varin
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A true master... of online marketing

I found this guy's web site today, and let me tell you he must have thrown in every marketing buzz word he could think of: secret, amazing, free, bonus, underground, you, instant, short cut.

This is probably the single greatest endorsement for aikido that I have ever seen.

"SIDENOTE: Here is the thing: This will change your life immediately and forever!. Just as it did mine. You will have the Aikido skills, the confidence and the power to wrap your opponent into a little box of bones that will require him to pay rent to his chiropractor for using his office everyday for the rest of his sad and miserable pain filled life. Everyone who comes up against you from this day forward will need to see a trauma psychologist to help them deal with the flash-backs and pain filled memories from pissing you off and thinking they could show you who the man is..."

I thought everyone would have a laugh checking it out and I guess I'm half hoping that someone will order it and tell me what exactly his system is. I mean come on there's a 60 day 100% money back unconditional guarantee!

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Old 10-23-2006, 06:04 AM   #2
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Re: A true master... of online marketing

It's funny that each book has the same picture on the front?! Maybe this sankyo with a kick technique covers all eventualities. When I was teaching the self-defence instructors in Delta Force this is the only technique we used as well.

I've seen several dubious links from other sites to these types of adverts, and the promotion is almost exactly the same (how someone - usually special forces, taught them all these secret moves that no-one else here's of). I think it is some type of scam and you won't receive anything. There aren't any 'secret techniques' except maybe one; that is to train your arse off until you are really good (many beginners take ages before they understand this secret technique).

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Old 10-23-2006, 07:51 AM   #3
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Re: A true master... of online marketing

Quote (from the website): "Do You Have The Aikido Skills To Defend Yourself Against These 2 Trained Killers Who Have Weapons?" Unquote.

I asked my friend in Delta Force about this and he told me not to bother with the sankyo lock and kicking them in the boll*cks, but to just shoot the bast*rds :-)

Ordering these books will most certainly 'change your life' when this guy gets hold of your credit card details and clones your identity...
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Old 10-23-2006, 08:14 AM   #4
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Re: A true master... of online marketing

All I have to say is why Aikido. We have enough of our own kooks to worry about.

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Old 10-23-2006, 09:32 AM   #5
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Re: A true master... of online marketing

I'd say that the closest this guy comes to telling the truth is when he makes the statement:
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Professional Martial Artist's HATE ME!
And anyone else who pretends to have the one sure-fire, no fail, learn in 5 minutes way to kick anybody's ass.

If it's stupid but works, it isn't stupid.
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Old 10-23-2006, 10:28 AM   #6
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Re: A true master... of online marketing

http://www.underground-training.com/sp/t1.php
http://www.underground-training.com/sp/k1.php
http://www.underground-training.com/sp/j1.php

This guy knows everything! I love how the website tells you today (whatever today is on ur computer) is the last day to order, since even though he's altruistic and sells his secrets for the benefit of all, all means just several "lucky few".
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Old 10-23-2006, 10:31 AM   #7
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Re: A true master... of online marketing

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Everyone who comes up against you from this day forward will need to see a trauma psychologist to help them deal with the flash-backs and pain filled memories from pissing you off...
Ah, the Aiki way!
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Old 10-23-2006, 11:20 AM   #8
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Re: A true master... of online marketing

This guy has a different page, I mean exactly identical page, for any MA you can think of. He just changes the name.

Q
http://www.aikidopetaluma.com/
www.knot-working.com

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Old 10-23-2006, 11:36 AM   #9
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Re: A true master... of online marketing

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Jo Adell wrote:
This guy has a different page, I mean exactly identical page, for any MA you can think of. He just changes the name.
I didn't check into it, but I had a hunch that that was the case.


"The only difference between Congress and drunken sailors is that drunken sailors spend their own money." -Tom Feeney, representative from Florida
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Old 10-23-2006, 11:19 PM   #10
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Re: A true master... of online marketing

Did you see he teaches Bruce Lees speacial techniques.... Man thats sooo awesome, if anything could make my life better it's owning these tapes!!!
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Old 10-24-2006, 04:14 AM   #11
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Re: A true master... of online marketing

"Covert secrets to defending an attack against a gun. Use this secret technique the right way and your attackers gun will become YOUR GREATEST WEPON!! "

To speak ill of anything is against the nature of Aikido
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Old 10-24-2006, 09:53 AM   #12
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Deadly Aikido secrets in minutes!!

Hey all, I just got an email from a Mr. Jim Anderson who proposes to teach deadly Aikido secrets (among other MA)

Claims that in a "Fight" you shouldn't take more than 8 minutes and so on and so on. "Use aikido techniques to destroy your opponent"......

I wanted to know who has actually dealt with this "gentleman" when I googled him I came up with this site

http://www.soton.ac.uk/~aikido/instructors.html

Is it the same guy?

P.S. I'm just curious as to who would make such claims, not interested in learning "Instant oatmeal Aikido" even if it were real.

Jjo
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Old 10-24-2006, 10:02 AM   #13
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Re: Deadly Aikido secrets in minutes!!

I would say it's the same Jim Anderson that we have been poking fun at in the humour section for This Web Site. I very much doubt that it is the same guy as you googled, the other site says '"Jim Anderson" is property of www.underground-training.com'


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Old 10-24-2006, 10:10 AM   #14
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Re: A true master... of online marketing

Maybe he's mastered the old dodging bullets trick that O Sensei used to do.

$67 is pretty good value if he has :-)
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Old 10-24-2006, 10:29 AM   #15
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Re: A true master... of online marketing

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Maybe he's mastered the old dodging bullets trick that O Sensei used to do.
He must have watched The Matrix a buuuuuunch of times.

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Old 10-24-2006, 12:44 PM   #16
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Re: Deadly Aikido secrets in minutes!!

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I wanted to know who has actually dealt with this "gentleman" when I googled him I came up with this site
http://www.soton.ac.uk/~aikido/instructors.html
Is it the same guy?
Did you look at that website? Its just about the least "deadly secret" type dojo you're ever likely to see.
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Old 10-24-2006, 12:46 PM   #17
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Re: Deadly Aikido secrets in minutes!!

Quoting from the above web page-

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The 2 SECRET elbow techniques that Aikido insiders wish they knew right now... These are the 2 deadliest elbow techniques that you can use. These 2 techniques should be make ilegal...
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Nice! I should offer to teach him my SUPER SECRET DEADLIEST EVER technique of, er... spellcheck.
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Old 10-24-2006, 03:03 PM   #18
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Re: A true master... of online marketing

He probably taught Chuck Norris... after all, everyone knows that "Bullets dodge Chuck Norris!"

(Dang, I just couldn't stop myself from repeating that cheezy phrase!)
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Old 10-25-2006, 05:53 AM   #19
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Re: A true master... of online marketing

I was flicking through a copy of his book yesterday and there is this cool technique against armed mutliple attackers you can actually do whilst unconcious. I tried it whilst I was asleep last night and it really works!

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Old 10-25-2006, 08:32 AM   #20
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Re: A true master... of online marketing

We always have a trauma psychologist on hand at the dojo whenever Sensei teaches secret deadly aikido techniques!

jon harris

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Old 10-25-2006, 09:02 AM   #21
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Re: A true master... of online marketing

I'm thinking of doing my next grading while I'm unconscious so that's great news for the jyu waza
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Old 10-25-2006, 09:53 AM   #22
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Wow Unconscious grading, hey that would be beginners mind wouldn't it. I knew all those Aikido dreams were there for a reason.... Hey I am always great in them!!!!
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Old 10-25-2006, 10:30 AM   #23
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Re: A true master... of online marketing

hey folks, I don't think it's such a good deal. He says he paid OVER $1,364.54 for these training books, but I'm pretty sure I remember a guy at the subway station selling them for no more than $1,364.29!!!! He looked pretty unconscious too, so he was probably deadly....
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Old 10-26-2006, 03:31 AM   #24
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Re: A true master... of online marketing

the article says,"The guaranteed way to put any attacker on his head within seconds of an attack. I don't care if your attacker is 200lbs larger then you... He will go down so fast he won't even know what happened... " That would be kick him in the nuts I presume. One thing is clear from this site, this guy has NEVER done aikido in his life!
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Old 10-26-2006, 11:43 AM   #25
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Re: A true master... of online marketing

this is just designed for Google advertising.

pick your favorite martial arts as a keyword.

nothing specific to aikido aout it

if you have a gmail account you see a lot of this crap pop up.


just on step above (maybe) Nigerian bank transfer scams.

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