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Old 08-07-2006, 08:54 AM   #26
Ron Tisdale
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Re: Ad Hoc IRIMI NAGE

Another quick thought, I have noticed that a very small movement in 'opening the body' can produce a very large affect, even in the absence of uke's power. I believe that is what might have happened here...the ref naturally 'opened his body', and uke naturally followed.

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Old 08-07-2006, 09:17 AM   #27
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Re: Ad Hoc IRIMI NAGE

That was good use of body movement by the ref and I would classify as irimi-nage. Notice the push against the other person as well (like an extension). He must have done ju-jitsu or aikido. I would say we would practise irimi-nage in a similar way sometimes. There is movement of the body and entering (even if the feet aren't moving)

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Old 08-07-2006, 09:34 AM   #28
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Re: Ad Hoc IRIMI NAGE

Take a look at the close up slow motion in the end of the clips. There no "following" done by the guy being tossed on his ***. The ref pushes him in the ropes (with one hand securing the guys right arm and the other hand up towards his throat. Next he let the left hand slip up behind the guys neck (securing it). Now the ref lean back and uses the spring action of the rope to get the guy with him as hi pulls him towards himself. The refs left leg block the guys feet from regaining balans properly as he is pulled forward. Next he uses his obvious superiour strength and size to lift the guy of his feet (by his neck and torso) as he is coming forward. That's it! The momentum brings the guys legs forward while his head and torso is being projected up - back - down in order.
I'll have to agree that the aiki equivalent would in my eyes be iriminage since I now noticed the switch of hand positions.

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Old 08-07-2006, 09:57 AM   #29
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Re: Ad Hoc IRIMI NAGE

I vote irimi nage. This is very similar to the way my sensei does it. He turns his hips and lifts up, never cutting down, and then reverses his hips throwing the person. Agreed, his feet do not move but his body draws back and then enters in my opinion. Nice job. Looks like the competitor pissed him off.
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Old 08-07-2006, 10:09 AM   #30
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Re: Ad Hoc IRIMI NAGE

Looks more like WWF and a Vince McMann production.

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