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Old 02-15-2006, 08:56 AM   #1
Steve Morabito
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Ki and Chi

Open discussion on Ki and Chi: For example, compare them, contrast them; are they the same thing or different; do they relate in any way; what was Osensei's experience with Chi? How does Chi relate to Aikido? How does Ki relate to Tai Chi? Etc.
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Old 02-15-2006, 09:22 AM   #2
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Re: Ki and Chi

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Steve Morabito wrote:
Open discussion on Ki and Chi: For example, compare them, contrast them; are they the same thing or different; do they relate in any way; what was Osensei's experience with Chi? How does Chi relate to Aikido? How does Ki relate to Tai Chi? Etc.
Thanks,
Steve
It's been discussed to death now. I don't think current active posters have anything new to say. If you have any interesting ideas, just say it. Otherwise do a search yourself on this forum will serve everyone better.
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Old 02-15-2006, 10:30 AM   #3
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Re: Ki and Chi

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It's been discussed to death now. I don't think current active posters have anything new to say. If you have any interesting ideas, just say it. Otherwise do a search yourself on this forum will serve everyone better.
"You forgot that you don't own this forum." -Roosevelt Freeman 2/8/2006

Now, onward with the topic for interested parties...
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Steve
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Old 02-15-2006, 11:09 AM   #4
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Re: Ki and Chi

I actually kind of agree with Roosevelt. I don't think he was trying to 'own' the forum. Just making a cogent suggestion. Perhaps if you read the other threads, you could ask a question in one of them, or refocus your questions here. It's a good practice to search on your questions and explore what is already out there. It just helps not to cover the same ground, good net-equite (I spelled that wrong). Not a problem if you don't think so though. Just my opinion.

Oh, here is some material you might find interesting, here and on other sites.

From AikidoJournal.com, by or about Kenji Ushiro:

http://www.aikidojournal.com/articl...ighlight=ushiro
http://www.aikidojournal.com/articl...ighlight=ushiro

From Aikiweb.com, by Rob John, Mike Sigman, and others:

http://www.aikiweb.com/forums/showt...okyu#post120164

http://www.aikiweb.com/forums/showt...hlight=ki+kokyu

From AikidoJournal.com, by Ellis Amdur and others:
http://www.aikidojournal.com/?id=1517

The search engines at these sites will turn up quite a bit of material.

Best,
Ron

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Old 02-15-2006, 11:49 AM   #5
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Re: Ki and Chi

Thanks Ron, for the re-direction...your post is helpful. Before posting I actually did do a forum search on "ki and chi." I didn't really find what I was looking for (I suspect because I am a novice user) so I created a new thread. I really do appreciate the links, and I hope to find what I'm looking for there.
Apologies to all for creating a thread that may not have been needed.
Steve
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Old 02-15-2006, 11:55 AM   #6
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Re: Ki and Chi

No appology needed, and you are very welcome. Sometimes it's good to remind some of us that have done this for a while that not everyone has been around as long. Hope to read some of your thoughts...

Best,
Ron

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Old 02-15-2006, 12:34 PM   #7
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Re: Ki and Chi

Ron,

You're a nicer person than I am. I guess I need to make tone sound friendly at least.

How's your journey with Sumo stuff? Got any thing worth reporting?

Regards
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Old 02-15-2006, 01:00 PM   #8
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Re: Ki and Chi

Hi Roosvelt,

I've probably been practicing (being nice) longer, that's all...and believe me, I need the practice! My knee is still problamatic for the shikko exercise, but I am doing some of the ones I learned from Ellis like the 'turtle drinking ki'. I'm exploring a lot of different ways to bring those topics into my physical practice, but I've got a long ways to go. Trying to be more aware of the spine and keeping the shoulder blades together is helping a lot I think...but learning the right places to relax and the right places to focus on is hard without someone directly teaching this stuff.

I think that's one advantage of the Aunkai approach...they don't try to teach or learn Martial Art per se, they focus on the body movement.

BEst,
Ron

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Old 02-15-2006, 01:04 PM   #9
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Re: Ki and Chi

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Ron Tisdale wrote:
No appology needed, and you are very welcome. Sometimes it's good to remind some of us that have done this for a while that not everyone has been around as long. Hope to read some of your thoughts...
"Thread Nazi"?!

Thread softie, more like it.

Well, done, Ron. As usual.

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