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06-09-2002, 12:01 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2001
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AikiWeb Poll for the week of June 9, 2002:
How important is a sense of a dojo community to you in aikido? - I don't do aikido
- Supremely important
- Very important
- Somewhat important
- Not at all important
Here are the current results.
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06-11-2002, 07:18 PM
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Dojo: Zenbudojo
Location: Caracas, Venezuela.
Join Date: May 2002
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Just for the records...
A month ago a friend and Dojo mate and me, were drinking a cup of coffe and talking about a seminar coming soon. And, plus other subjects, I asked him if he knew where our Dojo really was, and he answered: "In our hearts" and I said: "rigth, and where ever we go our Dojo goes with us".
Aikido is the best way to learn how to love everybody and be able to survive after that.
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06-12-2002, 08:58 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2000
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What kind of things do people do to cultivate a dojo community?
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06-12-2002, 12:59 PM
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Dojo: Aikido Bozankan
Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Join Date: Apr 2002
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dojo community
Hi
I was one who responded that the community aspect of the Dojo was very important.
I have come from a Dojo where a very good community feeling was developed and where it still is maintained.
I interpret a Dojo "community" as being a Dojo where Sensei and students have deeper feelings of belonging to a group that consider the well being and development of the student past the stage of... oh well he pays his dues...heres some techniques....if you get it okay but if you don't show up again who cares.
The kinds of things I can think of that fostered the spirit are:
1. A new student is approached by senior students and welcomed to class.
2. new students are introduced to all other students.
3. new students are not made to feel stupid, clumsy or slow because they can't roll well, etc
4. aggressive behaviouir with new students is not allowed.
5. an atmopshere of welcoming and interest in the lives of students is maintained past the new student stage. When arriving at the Dojo students say hi to each other, etc.
It seems funny to actually spell this out because you think this would go without saying but I remember a couple times when Sensei and even our Shihan has reminded the class to say hello. I was at a seminar when the warm up instructor was taken aside later on and asked why students did not say hi to our Shihan when he came in the Dojo during a warm up. He was told when he saw the seminar instructor arrive to stop warm up and have everyone bow and say good morning. Simple courtesy and manners.
6. Develop a training atmosphere where students can be strong and challenging for each other at appropriate stages of training but not as a "I'll show you how good I am or look how bad you are compared to me" attitude.
7. Involve the students in after class activities such as coffee, lunch, aikido video nights. Not all students care to or want to participate but we found if you make it available and gently encourage participation that eventually a good number of people become involved.
8. There is a part to the process that is really hard to pin down and I think it relates to the personalities of the Sensei, senior students and the rest in that order. If the Dojo has a Sensei who is grumpy, stand offish, negative then I don't think a comuunity will develop. It goes down the chain. Good humour to me really helps. I don't think I can remember a class where laughter wasn't present sometime.
Lastly, it may sound hokey but caring about students shows through. What do you do if a student is etiquette challenged? In a Dojo students go to the Sensei and tells them about student issues that bother them. Eg: so and so Dogi stinks. So and so is always wrestling with me and won't let me practice.
Do you say too bad work it out yourself? Do you tell the offending student take a hike?
Don't believe you are innocent. You may be suprised to find you are a student somone else complained about.
As a Dojo with strong community even the less than good student is worked with and tolerated. Gossip and put down comments tend to be popular but should be discouraged or discontinued.
I'm pretty proud of the Dojo I am thinking of. They are like an extended family to me.
I have been told more than once from students who came from other martial arts that they found the training in the Aikido club to be far more congenial with much less testosterone than what they experienced elsewhere. I suspect many Aikido clubs have similar experience.
Sorry for the long comment. This is a topic I feel strongly about.
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06-13-2002, 08:48 AM
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Location: Florida Gulf coast
Join Date: Jun 2000
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A linguistic breakdown of community is common-unity. There must be something we all have in common that unites us.
It is very important to me that I can trust the people I train with. I can trust that they will give me their best and that if we hurt each other in training, that it was not intentional.
Usually their is some underlying personality trait or goal in common which caused each of us to pick Aikido. I often think we forget to acknowledge and appreciate the sameness and focus too much on the differences in styles and affiliations.
Until again,
Lynn
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Lynn Seiser PhD
Yondan Aikido & FMA/JKD
We do not rise to the level of our expectations, but fall to the level of our training. Train well. KWATZ!
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