It's really simple. Most of the Aikido world doesn't call Aiki what you guys do. You know that, I know that, we agree on that.

Dan is the guy who's out there promoting this idea, he gave it to the people you are saying are it's promoters, like you Mark. The other people help Dan promote this idea.

It's simpler to call Dan's (and those who support Dan) variation of Aiki something different then what most people in the Aikido world calls Aiki. Because it is different...

I'll be calling what you guys are up to HAiki, and Dan's style HAikido from here on out, either way.

Also this thread drift is so far, I think we need a new thread, if this is going to go on.