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Old 01-29-2009, 08:04 AM   #17
Erick Mead
 
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Re: Yokomenuchi Tenchinage

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Carsten Möllering wrote: View Post
In our nomenclature for irimi nage you have to step into the blind angle or blind spot of uke (shikaku 死角 ).
That means you place yourself behind uke. And on the outside of ukes arm. ... That's how we distinguish irimi nage and tenchi nage: It's not the throwing movement of the arm but our positioning in relation to uke.
I dunno about that as the distinction, exactly. Iriminage works perfectly well inside of the arm, the entry just has to be keenly aware of attaining immediate kuzushi because the opposing arm and leg are able to initiate a second attack, if not.

Likewise, a crosshand grab can be turned into a tenchi nage outside the arm if he grabs or blocks nage's atemi to the face, and then you ARE outside the arm, and the tenchinage proceeds. Some might call this a kokyu nage, but there is a distinction my book, even though the position is the same. Kokyu nage raises the whole structure inhaling and drops through him with whole structure the cycle of breath exhaling in a full circular spiral. Tenchinage is splinching him (for the Harry Potter fans)

To put it in more colorful terms -- in kokyunage you gather him up and then collapse him -- in irminage you cut him open and walk through him -- and in tenchi nage you splay him and he splats. What is happening to uke's structure is the distinction.

Cordially,

Erick Mead
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