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Old 10-30-2011, 07:34 PM   #1637
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Re: Aikido does not work at all in a fight.

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Janet Rosen wrote: View Post
The man defended himself. Where in his post is this not clear?
A friend of mine got surrounded by a group of lads, they took his bag off him, kicked him, punched him and he being a tough bastard just stood there and took it because he figured fighting back wasn't really an option and he's not much of a runner. Eventually they got kinda weirded out by a guy that can take a beating with total indifference and left and even gave him his bag back.

Pretty much the same situation and the same result: nobody was dead, nobody was injured all that badly. If the original example is meant as an example of self-defence then really it's only marginally better than being a punch bag, this is what I'm saying, you wouldn't sell Aikido as a practical art off the back of it because really it's a case where a group of guys picked on someone they thought was an easy target because they themselves weren't willing to fight and anyone can fight people trying to avoid a fight. The same result probably would have happened if he was a totally untrained guy who decided to have a go, claiming the decisive factor or even the lion's share of credit for Aikido here is a bit much.

So if we're going to say Aikido is effective then we can only cite examples where at the start there are people who are willing and able to fight and at the end said people are on the floor unable to fight.
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